Jupiter's Atmosphere: Questions & Answers

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the dynamics of Jupiter's atmosphere, specifically focusing on the varying speeds of atmospheric bands and the nature of turbulence within those bands. Participants explore concepts related to atmospheric motion, convection, and the Coriolis effect, drawing parallels between Jupiter's atmosphere and that of Earth.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why Jupiter's atmosphere appears to have different speed bands rather than moving uniformly.
  • Another participant suggests that the observed turbulence patterns on Jupiter may require significant viscosity to maintain their structure without breaking into smaller curls.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of wind and convection on Earth, explaining that similar principles may apply to Jupiter's atmosphere.
  • Links to external resources are provided to illustrate the Coriolis effect and wind patterns, suggesting a similarity between Earth and Jupiter's atmospheric dynamics.
  • Participants note that Earth's atmosphere, while similar in function, is less visible due to its thinness and transparency.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the fundamental principles of atmospheric motion but do not reach a consensus on the specific mechanisms at play in Jupiter's atmosphere. Multiple views on the nature of turbulence and atmospheric behavior remain present.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about atmospheric viscosity and turbulence are not fully explored, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities of how these factors interact in Jupiter's atmosphere.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in atmospheric science, planetary dynamics, or comparative planetary atmospheres may find this discussion relevant.

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once i looked at short video clip of Jupiter atmosphere. i have questions in mind:
1. why the atmosphere seems to travel at different speed making up a number of sliding rings?why don't they travel together?
2. what makes the pattern of turbulence so huge? i think we need such an incredible viscousity to produce such an effect. why don't they break up into tiny curls?

i never learn astronomy, so please excuse my silly questions if they sound very trivial.
 
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Good questions. Let me reframe the issue slightly:

First, what is wind and how does it work on Earth? Wind is nothing more than convective heat transfer: warm air rises, cool air moves into take its place. Since it is warmer at the equator than the poles, the convection takes heat up and away from the equator and sends it to the poles. Now you may notice that winds around where you live often go in the same direction. So what causes that? That's the coriolis effect. If wind moves in a straight line while the Earth is rotating under it, that causes the wind to bend.

This first link has a good description of the coriolis effect, the second has a good diagram showing the prevailing wind directions:
http://www.rcn27.dial.pipex.com/cloudsrus/wind.html
http://seis.natsci.csulb.edu/rbehl/winds.htm

And here is a great link showing the two circulation patterns side-by-side:
http://www.classzone.com/books/earth_science/terc/content/investigations/es2704/es2704page02.cfm

Notice how similar the bands look to how wind circulates on Jupiter?! The names are different, but they match up almost exactly!
 
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wow... I've checked it.
so Earth atmosphere is actually just doing the same thing ...
 
Yep, but our atmosphere is thin and transparent, so we don't see it. :)
 

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