Just learning about power machines, I have a basic question

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The discussion centers on the operation of a Double Fed Induction Generator (DFIG) controlled by a DC motor, specifically regarding the relationship between rotor voltage and stator output voltage. The participant observes that increasing the rotor voltage significantly boosts the stator voltage, with outputs of 3.9V rms at 3 volts and 14.6V rms at 7 volts applied to the rotor. This phenomenon is attributed to the transformer-like behavior of the DFIG, where the rotor's voltage influences the stator's output due to the interaction of the windings. The participant is encouraged to further explore machine theory to deepen their understanding.

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Hi, I am an EE student that has been helping in my professor's lab. We have a Double Fed Induction Generator set up and it is rotated by a DC motor. It is used for experiments. We have the whole set up running through a controller with a graphical user interface where you can adjust various parameters and see graphs in real time of different things.

As anybody here probably knows, a DFIG has windings on both the stator and rotor. I can control the voltage applied to the rotor windings from a computer. When the generator shaft is rotating, if I increase the rotor voltage, it increases the stator's output voltage. Why? I don't really understand what is going on inside the machine. I can kind of understand how I can control the stator frequency by changing the rotor frequency, but I don't understand why there is such a drastic difference in stator voltage. At 1600rpm, I can get 3.9V rms from the stator if I apply 3 volts to the rotor, or I can get 14.6V rms if I apply 7 volts to the rotor. That is a huge difference.

What is physically happening here?
 
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Prior to experiments, have you studied machine theory from a textbook? Your questions are more on the theoretical side.
 
I am in an introductory course to electric machines, but we aren't covering anything as complicated as a DFIG. We are studying basic simplified DC and AC machines.

The only thing I can think of is that since you have windings on both stator and rotor it is acting as a sort of transformer. The voltage from the rotor is being "stepped up" across on the stator side and added to the voltage induced from being rotated. But I don't know if that is accurate or if there is something more or different at work.
 
Most likely this can only be answered by an "old timer". I am making measurements on an uA709 op amp (metal can). I would like to calculate the frequency rolloff curves (I can measure them). I assume the compensation is via the miller effect. To do the calculations I would need to know the gain of the transistors and the effective resistance seen at the compensation terminals, not including the values I put there. Anyone know those values?

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