Undergrad Understanding Kaon Behavior: Decays and Predictions by Gell-Mann and Pais

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The discussion centers on the decay processes of kaons, specifically why the decay of K → 2π is faster than K → 3π, attributed to the greater energy released in the former. The available phase space for the decay into two pions is larger than for three, leading to significantly different lifetimes for the CP eigenstates K_s and K_l. Additionally, the conversation touches on the prediction of K° and its antiparticle conversion, which can be understood through Feynman diagrams and the application of quantum mechanics principles. The importance of studying the material sequentially in Griffiths' book is emphasized for better comprehension. Overall, the discussion highlights the complexities of kaon behavior and decay processes in particle physics.
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Hello, I am startfing to study kaons and I can not understand why (or how) We know that the decay process of k → 2 π is much faster than the K → 3π.

In the Griffits´ book he says that: The reason is the energy released is greater.

But I don´t get it.

Can someone explain me this issue a bit?

And, if possible, how could Gell-Mannand Pais predict the conversion between a K° and its antiparticle?
 
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Pedro de la Torre said:
In the Griffits´ book he says that: The reason is the energy released is greater.

But I don´t get it.

Have you read the whole book? Or only that sentence?
 
I am reading it... I am only in the 5th chapter.
 
I think Griffiths's wording is a bit confusing. What he means to say is the following: Take the kaon in the initial state at rest. The energy is given by its rest energy ##m_K c^2##. To decay into 2 or three 3 pions you need more the ##2 m_{\pi} c^2## or ##3 m_{\pi} c^2## of energy, respectively. Thus the available phase space (in terms of the pions' three momenta) is much larger for the decay into 2 than 3 pions, and thus the lifetimes of the CP eigenstates ##K_s## and ##K_l## ("K short" and "K long") are quite different: ##\tau_s=0.895 \cdot 10^{-10} \text{s}## and ##\tau_l=5.11 \cdot 10^{-8} \text{s}## as written in Griffiths's book.
 
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It´s great! thank you!

And about the conversion between the K° and its antiparticle, how can be predicted such phenomenom?
 
Pedro de la Torre said:
And about the conversion between the K° and its antiparticle, how can be predicted such phenomenom?
the question is unclear. Do you mean how one can measure this? or how it can happen?
 
Well, both the ##\mathrm{K}^0## and the ##\overline{\mathrm{K}^0}## can decay to two pions. Now think of this process in terms of Feynman diagrams, it's pretty clear that you can built a loop diagram where a ##\mathrm{K}^0## is converted to a ##\overline{\mathrm{K}^0}##. For a very nice treatment within quantum mechanics (applying the famous Wigner-Weisskopf approximation), including the important discovery of CP violation in the neutral-kaons system (Nobel to Cronin and Fitch 1964) see

O. Nachtmann, Elementary Particle Physics - Concepts and Phenomenology, Springer-Verlag, Berlin, Heidelberg, New York, London, Paris, Tokyo, 1990.
 
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Pedro de la Torre said:
And about the conversion between the K° and its antiparticle, how can be predicted such phenomenom?

See Figure 4.12 in Griffiths. This is why I asked you if you were working through the whole thing. Each chapter builds on the ones before it. You can't jump around and learn the material.
 
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Yes, I did not understand when I saw for first time, but now I have completely understood.

Thank you.
 

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