Kicking a Ball: Solving for Height, Time, & Distance

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving projectile motion, specifically analyzing the motion of a ball kicked straight up with an initial velocity. The problem includes determining the maximum height, time until the ball hits the ground, horizontal distance traveled with an initial x-component of velocity, and the impact velocity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of kinematic equations to find the maximum height and time of flight, questioning the sign convention for acceleration due to gravity.
  • Some participants suggest re-evaluating the equations used for parts c and d, with hints towards simpler approaches for calculating horizontal distance.
  • Questions arise regarding the symmetry of the projectile's motion and whether certain calculations should account for the initial height from which the ball is kicked.
  • There is uncertainty about whether to multiply time by two for the total flight time and how to approach the calculation of the final velocity upon impact.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback and alternative perspectives on the original poster's attempts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of equations and assumptions, but no consensus has been reached on the correctness of the calculations or the methods to be used.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of projectile motion, including the effects of initial height and the distinction between vertical and horizontal components of motion. There is an emphasis on ensuring that all relevant factors are considered in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


Girl kicks ball straight up, makes contact with ball 1 m above ground, initial velocity = 3 m/s
a.) How high does the ball go?
b.) How long until it hits the ground?
c.) If she had given it an initial x-component of velocity of 2 m/s (same y-component), how far would the ball land from her?
d.) With what velocity would it hit the ground?

Homework Equations


vf2 = vi2 + 2ay(yf-yi)
vf = vi + at
xf = xi + vit + 1/2axt2

The Attempt at a Solution


a.) vf2 = vi2 + 2ay(yf-yi)
0 = 32 + 2(9.8)(yf - 1)
-9 = 19.6yf - 19.6
10.6/19.6 = yf
yf = 0.5408 m
This seems like a really small number; shouldn't it be higher?

b.) vf = vi + at
0 = vi + -gt
t = vi/g
t = 3/9.8 = 0.306 s
0.306 s * 2 = 0.612 s (because the flight curve is symmetric)

I'm not really sure what equations to use for parts c and d, neither am I sure if parts a and b are correct.
Thank you very much!
 
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a) check your convention is gravity positive or negative?

b) you need to think about where she initially kicked it from and whether time up == time down for entire trip or just for the symmetric part.

c) What do you need to know about the ball to determine how far it traveled given no air resistance?
hint: it's none of those equations, it's simpler than that.
 
Thank you for your help so far.

a.) Changing a to -9.8 gives a final y-position of 2.837 m.
b.) Using the eqn. yf = yi + vit + 1/2at2 makes more sense because it takes into account the non-zero starting position of 1 m.
Therefore, t = 1.174 s
question:
Do I have to multiply this answer by 2? (I don't think so, because doesn't the quadratic equation represent the entire parabola of the flight curve?)

question:
c.) I don't know what you mean by not having to use any eqn.
I used xf = xi + vit + 1/2at2
xf = 1 + 2(1.174) + 0 (since no a in x-direction)
xf = 3.348 m
Is this not correct?

question:
d.) Would vf = vi because there no acceleration in x-direction?
Would the answer be 2 m/s?
 
for c I was thinking of even more simply: d = v*t, which is just a simplified version of the one you used.

d) you still need to take y velocity into account here...
 

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