Kinetic Energy, Potential Energy, Work

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of kinetic energy, potential energy, and work in the context of a problem involving a slingshot. The original poster describes a scenario where an object is shot from a height using a spring mechanism, seeking clarity on the relationships between these forms of energy and the appropriate substitutions in energy equations.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between spring energy and kinetic energy, questioning when it is appropriate to substitute work for kinetic energy in energy equations. There is discussion about using energy conservation principles and the implications of vertical displacement on energy calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing different perspectives on the approach to the problem. Some suggest direct relationships between different forms of energy, while others question the necessity of including work in the equations. There is no explicit consensus, but various interpretations and methods are being explored.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses confusion about the concepts involved and the correct application of energy equations, indicating a potential gap in understanding the underlying principles. There is also a mention of the problem being solved previously, suggesting constraints related to homework guidelines.

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Hi! So this is a more general question about a question that I have already solved but I'm still confused and it seems like I'm missing the concept here.

Homework Statement



I'll try to recall the question as best I can from memory. A person is standing at a certain height h and shoots an object with some mass m at some angle z with a slingshot that acts as a spring with a k of k. The question asked for the velocity after the slingshot was released.

Homework Equations



Kf + Ugf = Ki + Ugi
1/2mvf^2 + mgy = 1/2mvi^2 + mgh
Ws = 1/2 kxi^2 + 1/2 kxf^2

The Attempt at a Solution



So basically what I did was plug in the values to find the work of the spring on the ball which I found to be 1/2kd^2. My main question is whether or not it is correct to substitute this value into the first equation above for Ki, the initial kinetic energy. This provided the correct answer and I found velocity by solving for Vf. I'm not sure if this makes any sense because I'm pretty confused myself. Thanks for any assistance.
 
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Wouldn't it be easier to just use
spring energy -> kinetic energy
.5kx^2 = .5mv^2
 
I suppose it would be--I think I've come up with my actual question now. When is it correct to substitute Work for Kinetic energy. Should I always substitute it in for Ki in the first equation and if it is vertical displacement, simply add mgh?
 
Sounds okay. I personally wouldn't bother with a W at all.
I think in terms of energy before = energy after
and put in whatever kinds of energy there are in each case.
 

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