Kinimatics: Find a & b for Projected Particle

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The problem involves kinematics, specifically the motion of a particle projected vertically upwards. The original poster seeks to determine the initial speed (u) and the total time of flight (b) for the particle, given its speed at a certain time during its ascent.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the time of flight using the particle's speed at a specific moment and applies a quadratic equation to find the time. Some participants question the validity of the approach and suggest using direct velocity equations instead.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of velocity equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to solve the problem.

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Participants are discussing the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly regarding the velocities involved and the application of kinematic equations. There is also mention of confusion regarding the derivation of certain values used in the calculations.

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I have gotten the right ans for this question, but I am not too sure if I am worked it out the right way.

Question: A particle is projected vertically upwards from a point O with speed [itex]u ms^{-1}[/itex]. Two seconds later it is still moving upwards with a speed [itex]\frac{1}{3}u ms^{-1}[/itex]. Find a: the value of u, b: the time from instant that the particle leaves O to the instant that it returns to O.

I worked out U which is 29.4ms^-1.

It b: I am having trouble with, as I stated I have the right ans, but to sure on if I have gotten the ans correctly.

What I have done it is take the part where the ball is at 1/3 u and workout out the time of travel from the part where it passes 1/3u again and the add on 4 seconds. Not very good at explain hopefully the math will show better.

[itex]0=9.8t-4.9t^2 → 4.9t^2-9.8t=0[/itex] solve and t=0 and t=2. So I then add on the 4sec and total time is 6 secs. Is this correct or not?

I would appreciate any help, big thanks in advance.

Sorry for the repost, the first one keeps telling me its invalid I can't edit it at all. So could one of the mods remove my older post.
 
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Taylor_1989 said:
[itex]0=9.8t-4.9t^2 → 4.9t^2-9.8t=0[/itex] solve and t=0 and t=2. So I then add on the 4sec and total time is 6 secs. Is this correct or not?
Please explain where this equation comes from. Where did you get a velocity of 9.8?

Why not deal directly with velocity equations? Much simpler.
 
I got it from the 1/3*29.4. I didn't know that I could deal with directly as there are two different velocity, for the way up. That is why I broke it down.
 
Taylor_1989 said:
I got it from the 1/3*29.4.
But that kind of assumes the answer, doesn't it?

I didn't know that I could deal with directly as there are two different velocity, for the way up. That is why I broke it down.
Just use vf = vi - gt .
 
Okay I am with you. Thanks for the help.
 

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