Kronecker Delta in Legendre Series

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The discussion centers around the application of the Kronecker Delta in the context of deriving coefficients for a Legendre series expansion in a mathematical physics course. Participants explore the properties of the Kronecker Delta and its implications for simplifying sums in the context of orthogonal functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their struggle with understanding how the Kronecker Delta simplifies the sum in the context of Legendre series coefficients.
  • Another participant explains that the Kronecker Delta is defined such that it equals 1 when indices are equal and 0 otherwise, illustrating this with a specific example of summation.
  • A different participant notes that the Kronecker Delta serves as a convenient notation for selecting a single value from a series, comparing it to other mathematical constructs like the Levi-Civita symbol and Dirac delta function.
  • One participant emphasizes that the Kronecker Delta effectively eliminates all terms in the sum except for the one where the indices match, leading to a straightforward substitution in the expression.

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Participants generally agree on the properties of the Kronecker Delta and its role in simplifying expressions, but there is no consensus on the availability of comprehensive resources for studying the topic further.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the depth of available resources on the Kronecker Delta, indicating a potential limitation in finding detailed proofs or explanations beyond basic definitions.

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Hello everyone,

I'm working through some homework for a second year mathematical physics course. For the most part I am understanding everything however there is one step I do not understand regarding the steps taken to solve for the coefficients of the Legendre series. Starting with setting the function I want to expand to

\begin{equation*}
f(x)=\sum_{l=0}^\infty c_l P_l(x)
\end{equation*}

multiplying both sides by ##P_m(x)## and integrating from ##-1## to ##1## with respects to ##x## gives me

\begin{equation*}
\int_{-1}^1 f(x) P_m(x) dx = \sum_{l=0}^\infty c_l \int_{-1}^1{P_l(x) P_m (x)dx} = \sum_{l=0}^\infty c_l \frac{2}{2l+1}\delta_{lm}
\end{equation*}

The issue I am having is the next step where we go from

\begin{equation*}
\sum_{l=0}^\infty c_l \frac{2}{2l+1}\delta_{lm} \quad \text{to} \quad c_m \frac{2}{2m+1}
\end{equation*}

I looked up Kronecker Delta on wikipedia and found the property

\begin{equation*}
\sum_j \delta_{ij} a_j = a_i
\end{equation*}

however I do not understand it. I know I could just memorize this and apply it however I would like to understand where this comes from. I've tried looking up proofs of the properties of Kronecker Delta however I haven't had any luck finding them and my textbook only has a paragraph on the function. Does anyone here know of a good resource for reading up on the Kronecker Delta function?
 
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PatsyTy said:
I looked up Kronecker Delta on wikipedia and found the property

\begin{equation*}
\sum_j \delta_{ij} a_j = a_i
\end{equation*}

however I do not understand it. I know I could just memorize this and apply it however I would like to understand where this comes from. I've tried looking up proofs of the properties of Kronecker Delta however I haven't had any luck finding them and my textbook only has a paragraph on the function. Does anyone here know of a good resource for reading up on the Kronecker Delta function?
There's really not much to it. ##\delta{ij} = 1## if i = j, and ##\delta{ij} = 0## otherwise.
So ##\sum_{j = 0}^n \delta_{ij} a_j = 0 a_0 + 0 a_1 + \dots + 1a_i + 0a_{i + 1} + \dots + 0a_n##
 
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Hi Pat, :welcome:

Would be surprised if there were any fat volumes on this subject. It's just a convenient way to pick one value out ouf a series. Allows elegant notation in formulas. (but now I'm short-changing the poor delta a little bit).

There's also the Levi-Civita symbol for the sign of permutations, or the DIrac delta function, a kind of analog equivalent to the Kronecker delta -- with its own peculiar properties. Mathematically in the realm of distributions, but for physicists almost a tangible good friend :smile: .

--

(Mark beat me to answering this one - but we agree).
 
Definition: \delta_{ij}=1, i=j; \delta_{ij}=0,i\ne j
 
PatsyTy said:
Hello everyone,The issue I am having is the next step where we go from

\begin{equation*}
\sum_{l=0}^\infty c_l \frac{2}{2l+1}\delta_{lm} \quad \text{to} \quad c_m \frac{2}{2m+1}
\end{equation*}
The key point is this: the Kronecker delta ensures that in the sum over l, the only term that will survive is when l=m (that is forced by the delta). All other terms are killed by the delta. So you take the expression under the sum (without the delta) and everywhere you see an "l", you replace it by "m".
 
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