How Fast Does Wine Level Decrease in a Conical Barrel During a Mythical Party?

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The problem involves a conical barrel from which wine is flowing out at a specified rate. The context is set during a mythical party, and the specific question is about determining the rate at which the depth of the wine decreases when the depth is at a certain level.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the volume of the cone to the rate of change of depth, using the formula for the volume of a cone. Some participants question the method of expressing the radius in terms of depth, suggesting that it should be a function of depth rather than a fixed value.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the relationship between the radius and height of the cone as the wine level decreases. There is a recognition of the need to express volume as a function of height alone, and some guidance has been offered regarding maintaining the shape and ratio of the cone throughout the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the geometric relationship between the radius and height of the cone, which must be maintained as the wine level changes. The original poster's approach has been critiqued for not adhering to this relationship.

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1.Suppose the wood nymphs and satyrs are having a hot party in honor of Bacchus and the wine is flowing freely from the bottom of a giant cone-shaped barrel which is 12 feet deep and 6 feet in radius at the top. if the wine is disappearing at a rate of 6 cubic feet per hour, at what rate is the depth of wine in the tank going down when the depth is 4 feet?



2. Homework Equations
volume of a cone: 1/3(pi)(r^2)(h)
 
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What have you done to try and solve it?
 
well,
i figured that dv/dt= -6
and that I am looking for dh/dt
so:
v=(1/3)(pi)(r^2)h
v=(1/3)(pi)(4)h
v=(4/3)(pi)h
dv/dt=(4/3)(pi)(dh/dt)
-6=(4/3)(pi)(dh/dt)
-24/3(pi)= dh/dt

is that right?
 
You need to have V as a function of h only, not both h and r. You seem to have done that by replacing r by 2 and I can see no reason to do that.

You are told that the entire cone has h= 12 and r= 6 and, as the level reduces it must retain that shape and that ratio: r/h= 6/12= 1/2 so r= (1/2)h.

Oh, I see where you got r= 2: when h= 4, r must be half that, 2. But when you differentiate, you need r as a function of h, not just the value at that particular time.
 

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