Lactate doesn't produce acidosis?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between lactate and acidosis, particularly in the context of ATP hydrolysis during vigorous exercise. Participants explore the biochemical reactions involved and the implications of these reactions on the understanding of lactate production and its effects on acidity in the body.

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  • One participant questions the assertion that lactate causes acidosis, suggesting it may instead be a consequence of acidosis, referencing an article for support.
  • Another participant asserts that the proton is released from ADP0H during ATP hydrolysis, indicating a misunderstanding in the initial interpretation of the reaction.
  • A subsequent reply confirms the correctness of the ATP hydrolysis reaction as ATP + H2O --> ADP + P + energy, while also discussing the acidic nature of phosphate groups and their pK values.
  • One participant elaborates on the mechanism of ATP hydrolysis, mentioning the role of water in attacking the phosphate group, which adds to the technical complexity of the discussion.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between lactate and acidosis, with some supporting the idea that lactate does not directly cause acidosis while others focus on the biochemical details of ATP hydrolysis. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these biochemical processes on the understanding of lactate's role in acidosis.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the interpretation of biochemical reactions and the definitions of terms like "proton" and "acidosis." The discussion also highlights the complexity of the physiological context in which these reactions occur.

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Hello guys,

I always thought it did but it seems that it is actually a consequence of acidosis. According to this article http://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article...r/lactate.html

However I don't understand this bit in the article

During vigorous exercise, the ATP (high-energy compound from which the cells derive energy) demands of muscle contraction are considerable. Every time an ATP molecule is split for energy it is broken down into an ADP and inorganic phosphate molecule, with the release of one hydrogen ion (another name for a hydrogen ion is a proton).

ATP + H2O --> ADP + P + energy

I don't see a proton been released in this reaction, also what happened to the H20 in this reaction, shouldn't this reaction be written as

ATP + H2O --> ADP0H + PH + energy

Is the proton of PH released?

Thanks :smile:
 
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No, the proton of ADP0H is released.
 
Ahmed Abdullah said:
No, the proton of ADP0H is released.

Thanks for the response :smile: I had a bit of a mental blank in this question. The equation like this is right ATP + H2O --> ADP + P + energy

If you look at the molecular formula phosphate gets the OH.

Also found the answer for the next bit

# The inorganic phosphate and the phosphate groups on ATP and ADP are weakly acidic, and have pK values in the physiological range. The activities of the different forms will vary depending on the pH of the reaction medium, and this will alter the value for DGo.

* HATP3- <==> ATP4- + H +; pK1' = 6.95
* HADP2- <==> ADP3- + H +; pK2' = 6.88
* H2PO4- <==> HPO42- + H +; pK3' = 7.20

(The effect of these pK values is that a H+ is released on ATP hydrolysis, with a stoichiometry which approaches 1 above pK3'. This proton release can be used to assay the reactions of ATP hydrolysis or synthesis, or follow the kinetics if a recoding pH meter is available.)

But I still like to hear other's opinion on the article. Thanks!
 
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lone pair electron from H20 attacks the beta (second) phosphate group of ATP and phospho di-ester bond between beta and gama phosphate is broken.
 

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