Landau-Lifshitz pseudotensor - expressing the EM tensor ##T^{ik}##

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The discussion revolves around the Landau-Lifshitz pseudotensor and its relation to the electromagnetic tensor ##T^{ik}## within the context of general relativity. Participants explore the derivation and transformation of the electromagnetic tensor as expressed in the Landau-Lifshitz text, particularly focusing on the mathematical manipulations required to express ##T^{ik}## in terms of the metric and curvature tensors.

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  • One participant references a specific page in the Landau-Lifshitz book, noting the use of locally inertial coordinates and the simplification of the metric derivatives at a point ##x##.
  • Another participant discusses the application of identities to transform the expression for ##R^{ik} - \frac{1}{2} g^{ik}R## into a form that matches the final expression provided by Landau-Lifshitz, detailing several mathematical steps and identities used in the process.
  • A third participant claims to have proven the transformation in the forward direction by expressing the Einstein tensor in terms of the curvature tensor, leading to a specific form for ##T^{\mu\nu}##.
  • Several participants express difficulty in deriving specific equations from the Landau-Lifshitz text, indicating a need for further clarification or access to additional material.
  • One participant provides a link to an online resource for accessing the text, suggesting it may help others in the discussion.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and success in deriving the necessary equations, indicating that while some have made progress, there remains uncertainty and difficulty regarding specific transformations and derivations. No consensus is reached on the ease or difficulty of these derivations.

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Participants note limitations in access to the full text of the Landau-Lifshitz book, which may hinder their ability to fully engage with the equations discussed. There are also unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions that are not explicitly stated, contributing to the complexity of the discussion.

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Landau-Lifshitz give an expression for the energy-momentum tensor ##T^{ik}## in terms of the metric and its first and second derivatives, and state that this is derivable "by simple transformations" from Einstein's equation ##8\pi T^{ik} = R^{ik} - \frac{1}{2}g^{ik}R##. What are these "simple transformations"?
See the screen shot below from L-L "Classical Theory of Fields" 4th Ed. p. 281. L-L choose a point ##x##, and work in locally inertial coordinates, so at the point ##x## the metric is constant: hence, ##g_{ik,l}=0##. The EM tensor ##T^{ik}## can be written in terms of the metric (and its 2nd derivatives) via the Einstein equation $$8\pi T^{ik} = R^{ik} - \frac{1}{2}g^{ik}R$$ which appears in the middle of the page (setting ##G=c=1##). In writing out the Ricci tensor ##R_{ik}##, L-L discard the ##\Gamma\Gamma## terms because ##g_{ik,l}=0##, and retain only the ##\Gamma^a_{bc,d}## terms. Thus, L-L give an expression for the contravariant Ricci tensor ##R^{ik}## in the middle of the page, and from this one can also express the Ricci scalar ##R = g_{ik}R^{ik}##.

A little later, L-L remark, "After simple transformations the tensor ##T^{ik}## can be put in the form...", and you see the equation below.

Performing the two derivatives ##\partial / \partial x^l## and ##\partial / \partial x^m## on the expression shown will produce a horrendous mess. Likewise, writing out ##R^{ik} - \frac{1}{2}g^{ik}R## in terms of the metric will produce another horrendous mess.

What are the "simple transformations" that L-L is referring to?

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Applying certain identities, the expression for ##R^{ik} - \frac{1}{2} g^{ik}R## in terms of ##g_{lp}## (using the quoted expression for ##R^{ik}##) just requires a few transformations to match the final form they provided. Below, I work backwards starting from their final expression.

First, some identities: It is fairly straightforward to show:

\begin{align*}
\frac{\partial}{\partial x^m} g = g g^{np} \frac{\partial g_{np}}{\partial x^m}
\end{align*}

Next, differentiating ##g_{\alpha \mu} g^{\beta \mu} = \delta_\alpha^\beta## implies

\begin{align*}
g_{\alpha \mu} \frac{\partial}{\partial x^m} g^{\beta \mu} = - g^{\beta \mu} \frac{\partial}{\partial x^m} g_{\alpha \mu}
\end{align*}

So that ##g^{\alpha \beta}_{\;\; , m} = 0## at the point ##x##. Differentiating again gives:

\begin{align*}
g_{\alpha \mu} \frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^l \partial x^m} g^{\beta \mu} = - g^{\beta \mu} \frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^l \partial x^m} g_{\alpha \mu}
\end{align*}

at the point ##x##. So that

\begin{align*}
\frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^l \partial x^m} g^{\alpha \beta} = - g^{\alpha n} g^{\beta p} \frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^l \partial x^m} g_{np}
\end{align*}

at the point ##x##. Using these results:

\begin{align*}
& \frac{\partial}{\partial x^l} \frac{1}{(-g)} \frac{\partial}{\partial x^m} [(-g) (g^{ik} g^{lm} - g^{il} g^{km})]
\nonumber \\
& = \frac{\partial}{\partial x^l} [g^{np} g_{np,m}(g^{ik} g^{lm} - g^{il} g^{km}) + \frac{\partial}{\partial x^m} (g^{ik} g^{lm} - g^{il} g^{km})]
\nonumber \\
& = g^{np} g_{np,ml}(g^{ik} g^{lm} - g^{il} g^{km}) + \frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^l \partial x^m} (g^{ik} g^{lm} - g^{il} g^{km})
\nonumber \\
& = g^{np} g_{np,ml}(g^{ik} g^{lm} - g^{il} g^{km}) + g^{ik}_{\;\; ,ml} g^{lm} + g^{ik} g^{lm}_{\;\; ,ml} - g^{km} g^{il}_{\;\; ,ml} - g^{il} g^{km}_{\;\; ,ml}
\nonumber \\
& = g^{np} g_{np,ml}(g^{ik} g^{lm} - g^{il} g^{km}) - g^{lm} g^{i n} g^{k p} g_{n p , m l}
- g^{ik} g^{m n} g^{l p} g_{n p ,m l}
\nonumber \\
& + g^{km} g^{n i} g^{p l} g^{il}_{n p ,ml}
+ g^{il} g^{n m} g^{p k} g_{np ,ml}
\end{align*}

which is the same as ##2R^{ik} - g^{ik} R##, as can be verified by comparing it with the quoted expression for ##R^{ik}##:

\begin{align*}
2 R^{ik} & = g^{im} g^{kp} g^{ln} \left\{ g_{lp,mn} + g_{mn,lp} - g_{ln,mp} - g_{mp,ln} \right\}
\nonumber \\
& = (g^{im} g^{kp} g^{ln} + g^{ip} g^{km} g^{ln} - g^{im} g^{kl} g^{pn} - g^{in} g^{kp} g^{lm}) g_{np,ml}
\end{align*}

\begin{align*}
- g^{ik} R & = - \frac{1}{2} g^{ik} g^{mp} g^{ln} \left\{ g_{lp,mn} + g_{mn,lp} - g_{ln,mp} - g_{mp,ln} \right\}
\nonumber \\
& = g^{ik} g^{mp} g^{ln} \left\{ g_{ln,mp} - g_{lp,mn} \right\}
\nonumber \\
& = (g^{ik} g^{ml} g^{pn} - g^{ik} g^{mp} g^{ln}) g_{pn,ml}
\end{align*}
 
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Many thanks. Actually, I was able to prove it in the forward direction by writing the Ricci tensor and Ricci scalar in terms of the curvature tensor, thus: $$G^{\mu\nu}=R^{\mu\nu}-\frac{1}{2}g^{\mu\nu}R = \left( g^{\mu\alpha}g^{\nu\beta}g^{\rho\sigma}- \frac{1}{2} g^{\mu\nu}g^{\alpha\beta}g^{\rho\sigma} \right) R_{\rho\alpha\beta\sigma} \, .$$ Then there's a fair amount of work to do, but by careful grouping of terms, the Einstein equation ##G^{\mu\nu}=-8\pi T^{\mu\nu}## gives $$T^{\mu\nu} = \left[ (16\pi)^{-1}(g^{\mu\nu}g^{\alpha\beta}-g^{\mu\alpha}g^{\nu\beta})_{,\beta} \right]_{,\alpha}$$ which is the required form. (The expression in square brackets is ##\nu##-##\alpha## antisymmetric.)
 
What now seems much more difficult is deriving Landau-Lifshitz's equations (96.8) and (96.9) from (96.7).
 
Kostik said:
What now seems much more difficult is deriving Landau-Lifshitz's equations (96.8) and (96.9) from (96.7).
Unfortunately, I don't have access to that part of the book. The Internet Archive version of L-L Volume 2 ends at page 183 for some reason.
 
Kostik said:
What now seems much more difficult is deriving Landau-Lifshitz's equations (96.8) and (96.9) from (96.7).
Indeed — as they say, "after a rather lengthy calculation."
 

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