Laplace transform of a simple equation (Simple question)

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Laplace transform to the differential equation ##x''(t)=0## with initial conditions ##x(0)=0## and ##x'(0)=0##. Participants explore the implications of the transform and the behavior of the resulting function ##X(s)##, particularly at the point ##s=0##.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that applying the Laplace transform leads to the equation ##s^2X(s)=0##, questioning why this implies ##X(s)=0## without considering ##s=0##.
  • Another participant asserts that the solution is ##x(t)=0##, noting that the Laplace transform of zero is also zero.
  • A different participant challenges the assumption that ##X(s)## must be zero for ##s=0##, suggesting that ##X(s)## could potentially differ from zero at that point.
  • One participant argues that the focus should be on the Laplace transform ##X(s)##, which returns zero for any value of ##s##, emphasizing that ##s## is a parameter that varies from 0 to infinity.
  • Another participant elaborates on the limitations of the definition of ##X(s)##, indicating that it is only valid for ##\operatorname{Re}(s) > 0## and that analytic continuation is necessary for ##\operatorname{Re}(s) \leq 0##, leading to the conclusion that ##X(s) \equiv 0## everywhere.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the Laplace transform at ##s=0##, with no consensus reached regarding whether ##X(s)## can be non-zero at that point. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the dependence of the validity of the Laplace transform on the real part of ##s##, highlighting that the definition is not universally applicable across the complex plane.

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Lets consider very simple equation ##x''(t)=0## for ##x(0)=0##, ##x'(0)=0##. By employing Laplace transform I will get
[tex]s^2X(s)=0[/tex] where ##X(s)## is Laplace transform of ##x(t)##. Why then this is equivalent to
[tex]X(s)=0[/tex]
why we do not consider ##s=0##?
 
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The solution is x(t)=0. Laplace transform of 0 is also 0.
 
I know that. I am asking you why we do not consider that for ##s=0##, ##X(s)## can be different from zero?
 
I do not think our problem is to get value of s to satisfy
[tex]s^2 X(s) = 0[/tex]
because s is parameter transformed which varies from 0 to infinity in usual.
We should have interest on Laplace transform X(s) and observe that it returns zero for any s.
 
LagrangeEuler said:
I am asking you why we do not consider that for [itex]s = 0[/itex], [itex]X(s)[/itex] can be different from zero?

The definition [tex] X(s) \equiv \int_0^\infty x(t)e^{-st}\,dt[/tex] is not valid for every [itex]s \in \mathbb{C}[/itex] (in general it's only valid for [itex]s[/itex] with sufficiently large and positive real part). Where that definition is not valid, we must define [itex]X(s)[/itex] by analytic continuation from the domain where it is valid. In this case, the equation [itex]s^2X(s) = 0[/itex] obtained from integrating [itex]x''(t)e^{-st}[/itex] is only valid for [itex]\operatorname{Re}(s) > 0[/itex]. The unique analytic extension of [itex]X[/itex] to [itex]\operatorname{Re}(s) \leq 0[/itex] then gives [itex]X(s) \equiv 0[/itex] everywhere.
 

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