Laplace Transforms, Region of Convergence

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of the region of convergence (ROC) in the context of Laplace transforms. Participants explore the definition and implications of ROC, particularly focusing on the conditions under which the Laplace transform integral converges.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a clearer, more accessible explanation of the region of convergence, expressing frustration with existing definitions.
  • Another participant explains that the ROC consists of the values of s for which the improper integral of the function multiplied by the exponential converges.
  • A participant questions what specifically converges in the context of the Laplace transform, seeking clarification on the convergence of the function and the exponential term.
  • It is clarified that the convergence refers to the limit of the improper integral existing as M approaches infinity, and that the ROC typically corresponds to a half-plane in the complex plane.
  • An example is provided involving the function f(t) = e^{5t}, illustrating that the limit converges under certain conditions on s, which defines the ROC.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the ROC, with some clarifying concepts while others remain uncertain about the specifics of convergence. No consensus is reached on a simplified explanation of ROC.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of determining the ROC, particularly for functions that may not be well-behaved. The dependence on the real part of s and the nature of the function involved are noted but not resolved.

tanky322
Messages
43
Reaction score
0
Can anyone explain the region of convergence to me in english? I understand the Laplace transform and can do it with my eyes closed, but I can't figure out how to figure out the ROC. I've scoured the internet, and every definition is vague or just incomprehensible by me.


Thanks!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Do you know anything about complex variables? The region of convergence is just the values of t where
[tex]\int_0^\infty f(t)e^{-s t} dt[/tex]
converges as an improper integral.
That can be difficult to find in general, but in many elementary applications only very well behaved f are considered for example the functions of exponential order.
 
I'm somewhat familiar with complex variables, although not too much. I guess what I am not really sure of, is what exactly converges? The function and e^-st?


Thanks for your reply!
 
What exactly converges? The improper integral. That is, the limit
[tex]\lim_{M\to+\infty}\int_0^M f(t)e^{-s t} dt[/tex]
exists. Generally, the region of convergence is a half-plane: all [itex]s[/itex] to the right of some vertical line in the complex plane.
 
As an example to what g_edgar wrote, consider
[tex]f(t) = e^{5 t},[/tex]
for
[tex]t\geq0.[/tex]

Now calculuate

[tex] \lim_{M\to+\infty}\int_0^M f(t)e^{-s t} dt = \lim_{M\to+\infty}\int_0^M e^{-(s-5) t}.[/tex]

You should find that the limit only converges if [tex]s[/tex] satisfies some condition. That condition defines the region of convergence. Note that [tex]s[/tex] is complex in general, and the constraint will be on the real part.

Jason
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
4K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
3K