Laplace Transforms to solve non IVPs?

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The discussion centers on the application of Laplace transforms to solve differential equations, specifically the equation x'' + x = T, where x is a function of T. Participants clarify that while the equation presents initial conditions, it is classified as a boundary value problem due to the provision of values at different points in time (x(0) and x(4)). The consensus indicates that Laplace transforms can be utilized for such problems, although some participants argue that alternative methods like variation of parameters may be more effective. The conversation highlights the complexity of boundary value problems compared to initial value problems.

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Is it possible to use a laplace transform to solve a problem like

x' + x = T

where x is a function of T and x(0) = 5 and x(4) = 7

Or can you only solve initial value problems?
 
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Isn't that already an initial value problem? You are given x(0). Yes you can use the Laplace transform to solve it.
 
No, that is not an initial value problem. Since it is a second order differential equation, an "initial value problem" would have x and x' given at the same value of t. Since you are given x at two different values of t, that is a "boundary value problem" which is significantly harder than an initial value problem.

I've always felt that "Laplace transform" was over rated. It gives a very "mechanical" way of solving problems that could be done in other ways. A problem like the one given here, to me, cries out for "variation of parameters".
 
Why is this a second order differential equation? It is x' and not x''.
 
Allright, my mistake, it should be

x'' + x = T, or something along those lines.

My question is: can I use Laplace transforms to solve endpoint value problems?
 
HallsofIvy said:
I've always felt that "Laplace transform" was over rated. It gives a very "mechanical" way of solving problems that could be done in other ways. A problem like the one given here, to me, cries out for "variation of parameters".

I really like Laplace transforms. There's just something really cool and dare I say - transcendental - about how discontinuous areas on the t domain become continuous on the s domain. Although I'd suppose that's true of the integration transform too.

Also, it kind of blows my mind how similar T and sin(T) are on the s-domain.
 
HallsofIvy said:
No, that is not an initial value problem. Since it is a second order differential equation, an "initial value problem" would have x and x' given at the same value of t. Since you are given x at two different values of t, that is a "boundary value problem" which is significantly harder than an initial value problem.

I've always felt that "Laplace transform" was over rated. It gives a very "mechanical" way of solving problems that could be done in other ways. A problem like the one given here, to me, cries out for "variation of parameters".
Agreed, the Laplace transform simply complicates matters more by introducing finding the inverse Laplace transform. There are much easier ways to solve ODE's and simpler ways of reducing PDE's.
 
I think you can. Just leave x'(0) to be an unknown, then you should have a function back that is in terms of T and x'(0). Then apply the fact that x(4) = 7 to find the value of x'(0) which gives you the full equation back.

Laplace transforms, I think, solves exactly the same family of equations that the method of undetermined coefficients solves.
 

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