Largest Known Star: Introducing Myself and Cosmology

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the measurement of star sizes, particularly in the context of the largest known star and the limitations of current observational techniques in astrophysics. Participants explore methods of estimating star sizes, the nature of images used in presentations, and the implications of these methods for understanding cosmology.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant introduces themselves and shares a website related to the largest known star, expressing an interest in cosmology.
  • Another participant questions how the size of stars, which cannot be resolved by telescopes, is measured, mentioning Betelgeuse as a star that can be resolved.
  • A participant clarifies that images of stars other than the Sun in the referenced slideshow are not actual telescope images, noting that they are likely drawings or re-colored images. They explain that only the Sun can be resolved by a single telescope, while interferometry can provide some information about star sizes.
  • This participant also discusses the method of estimating star sizes based on temperature and color, referencing theories that relate these properties to size, which have been validated through direct measurements of certain stars.
  • Another participant acknowledges their background in astrophysics and expresses understanding of the limitations of the images, while seeking clarification on direct measurement methods for star sizes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the limitations of current imaging techniques for stars and the methods used to estimate their sizes. However, there is no consensus on the specifics of these methods or the implications of the images presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the dependence on theories and calibration methods for estimating star sizes, as well as the limitations of the images used in presentations, which may not accurately represent the stars' actual appearances.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in astrophysics, cosmology, and the methods of measuring astronomical objects may find this discussion informative.

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This is the first time I am posting here. I thought I whould show this website as a way to introduce myself. I'm interested in anything dealing with science, especially cosmology. I have always liked showing this website to everyone because it really shows how small we are.

http://www.techdo.com/images/largest-know-star.htm
 
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Do you know how you measure a stars size which you can't resolve in telescopes? The largets know star that can be resolved is Betelgeuse (as far as I remember)
 
It's important to note that all of the 'images' of the stars that are not the Sun in that slide show are not actual telescope images (apart from the Eta Carina nebula that is actually much bigger than that slide show suggests?). They look like either drawings or re-coloured images of the Sun to give an idea of what that star might look like. We cannot resolve any star other than the Sun with a single telescope (even the biggest and best we have) although we can get some information about sizes using interferometry with multiple optical telescopes. These techniques still don't give you the kind of detail implied in that slide show. Not being critical of it, it's quite cool, but just bear that in mind since it isn't clear from the images alone.

What is normally done to estimate the size of a star is to measure its temperature by measuring its colour (blue is hotter than yellow which is hotter than red). We then have theories that tell us based on the colour and type of star (which we can determine by other aspects of the spectrum) how big the Star must be. These theories have been checked and calibrated on stars where we can measure the size directly, either through eclipsing binaries or optical interferometry (google or ask for more info on any confusing or new terms!) so we have some confidence that they work for stars were we can't get such direct information.
 
I have done quite much astrophysics, but that was a time ago..

I know that the pictures in that perticular slide was'nt real ones, and I know of the temperatur-luminosity-size relations.

Maybe my question was not specific enough:-)

But you shed some light on how we can measure stars size directly, thanx!
 

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