Law of total expectation (VECTOR case)

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The law of total expectation states that E(Y) = E[E(Y|X)] and can be extended to the vector case as E(Y) = E[E(Y|X1,X2)]. The discussion highlights two extensions: (i) E(Y|X1) = E[E(Y|X1,X2)|X1] and (ii) E(Y|X1,X2) = E[E(Y|X1,X2,X3)|X1,X2]. Participants seek clarification on whether E(Y|X1,X2) is a random variable and if the extensions are direct consequences of the law. The discussion emphasizes the complexity of defining E(Y|X1,X2) for general random variables and the need for robust proofs, particularly in the context of continuous random variables.

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" The law of total expectation is: E(Y) = E[E(Y|X)].
It can be generalized to the vector case: E(Y) = E[E(Y|X1,X2)].

Further extension:
(i) E(Y|X1) = E[E(Y|X1,X2)|X1]
(ii) E(Y|X1,X2) = E[E(Y|X1,X2,X3)|X1,X2] "
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I understand the law of total expectation itself, but I don't understand the generalizations to the vector case and the extensions.

1) Is E(Y|X1,X2) a random variable? Is E(Y|X1,X2) a function of both X1 and X2? i.e. E(Y|X1,X2)=g(X1,X2) for some function g?

2) Are (i) and (ii) direct consequences of the law of total expectation? (are they related at all?) I don't see how (i) and (ii) can be derived as special cases from it...can someone please show me how?

Any help is much appreciated!
 
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kingwinner said:
I understand the law of total expectation itself, but I don't understand the generalizations to the vector case and the extensions.

1) Is E(Y|X1,X2) a random variable? Is E(Y|X1,X2) a function of both X1 and X2? i.e. E(Y|X1,X2)=g(X1,X2) for some function g?

2) Are (i) and (ii) direct consequences of the law of total expectation? (are they related at all?) I don't see how (i) and (ii) can be derived as special cases from it...can someone please show me how?

E(Y|X) and E(Y|X1,X2) are tricky to define for general random variables. Which definition are you working with?
 
bpet said:
E(Y|X) and E(Y|X1,X2) are tricky to define for general random variables. Which definition are you working with?

E(Y|X=x)=

∫ y f(y|x) dy
-∞
for continuous random variables X and Y.
(similarly for discrete).

General definition:
E(Y|A)=E(Y I_A)/E(I_A)=E(Y I_A)/P(A)
where I_A is the indicator function of A.

If it's too hard to show it in general, can you please show me how can we derive (i) and (ii) from the law of total expectation for the case of CONTINUOUS random variables?

Thanks!
 
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kingwinner said:
... for the case of CONTINUOUS random variables?

Even then it's tricky - try some examples first with X1 iid X2 and then with X1=X2 and you'll see how those definitions break. The only robust proofs I've seen work with implicit definition for E(Y|X) etc. Maybe someone else here can suggest a simpler way?
 
First of all, is E(Y|X1,X2) a function of X1 and X2??

Is E(Y|X1) = E[E(Y|X1,X2)|X1] a special case of the law of total expectation E(Y) = E[E(Y|X)]?
 

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