"Laws of Form" by G. Spencer-Brown (1969)

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The discussion revolves around the relevance and impact of "Laws of Form" by G. Spencer-Brown, a logical system introduced in 1969. Participants explore its historical significance, its utility in logic and mathematics, and its influence on various fields such as semiotics and psychology.

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  • One participant questions whether "Laws of Form" has any utility beyond being a historical curiosity, noting that logical journals are filled with various logical systems.
  • Another participant suggests that while "Laws of Form" may not have mainstream application like Boolean algebra, it could potentially inspire future mathematicians to find new uses for its ideas.
  • A later reply indicates that the laws of form continue to attract interest among those studying the foundations of logic, semiotics, and consciousness, mentioning contributions by Louis Kauffman.

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Participants express differing views on the significance of "Laws of Form." Some see it as a stepping stone in the evolution of logical systems, while others highlight its ongoing relevance in specific academic fields. No consensus is reached regarding its overall utility or impact.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various logical systems and their applications, but the discussion does not resolve the question of "Laws of Form" being more than a historical curiosity. There is also mention of potential future applications that remain speculative.

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I have received (unasked) a digital edition of "Laws of Form" (1969) by G. Spencer-Brown; I have glanced at it, and also at the Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_Form. OK, another logical system; logical journals (e.g. by ASL) are full of them, and I am not sure whether this one stands out (beyond having some fuzzy interpretations that made it a "cult classic", as Wiki states). Wiki lists people it has influenced, but my question is: has the system itself gone anywhere, been of any utility in the rest of logic or mathematics (or even philosophy, although this forum is not for that) since then? Is it, in other words, anything more than a historical curiosity?
 
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I think it was just another guidepost along the way to some better idea. The books listed were mostly written a few years after this one with the exception of one in 2011.

In contrast, Boolean algebra is in use everywhere and is still taught in CS classes.

This is not to say that some future mathematician won’t find some primal utility to his ideas and kick off a revolution. There was some mention of the provability of some famed math problems and so if someone were to use it for that means then it could become mainstream once again.
 
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Thanks, jedishrfu.
 
nomadreid said:
I have received (unasked) a digital edition of "Laws of Form" (1969) by G. Spencer-Brown; I have glanced at it, and also at the Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_Form. OK, another logical system; logical journals (e.g. by ASL) are full of them, and I am not sure whether this one stands out (beyond having some fuzzy interpretations that made it a "cult classic", as Wiki states). Wiki lists people it has influenced, but my question is: has the system itself gone anywhere, been of any utility in the rest of logic or mathematics (or even philosophy, although this forum is not for that) since then? Is it, in other words, anything more than a historical curiosity?

The laws of form are still an area of interest, mostly to people interested in the foundations of logic, semiotics, consciousness research, psychology and sociology. Louis Kauffman (U Chicago topologist) has written many papers about LOF and other logical systems (see, for instance, Laws of Form, Majorana Fermions, and Discrete Physics at Researchgate)
 
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Thanks very much, jdstarrett.
 

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