Laws of motion and circular motion

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The discussion revolves around the laws of motion and circular motion, specifically focusing on a problem involving static friction and centripetal force in a system with a slider and a rod. Participants are attempting to analyze the forces acting on the slider when it is stationary relative to the rod.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are discussing the relationship between centripetal force and static friction, questioning the assumptions made about the forces acting on the slider. There are attempts to equate these forces and identify potential errors in reasoning.

Discussion Status

Some participants are seeking clarification on the components of the forces involved and whether all relevant forces have been considered. There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with hints and questions being raised about the correct approach to parts (ii) and (iii) of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a specific answer (4.07 rad/s) that does not align with the calculations presented, indicating potential misunderstandings or miscalculations in the approach taken. Additionally, the thread has been noted as being older, with one participant referencing the inactivity of another contributor.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations



Static friction = (9.81sin60 x 0.2)N
Centripetal force = mr(w)²



The Attempt at a Solution



I am only abl to get part (i), need hints for part (ii) and (iii).

Thanks in advanced
 
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What can you say about the forcing acting on the slider if it doesn't move, relative to the rod?
 
If it doesn't move, I assume the centripetal force= the static friction
Which is (cos30)mrw^2= (0.2)(sin60)9.81

But this doesn't give me the answer given which is 4.07rad/s. Can highlight where did I go wrong?
 
a150daysflood said:
If it doesn't move, I assume the centripetal force= the static friction
Which is (cos30)mrw^2= (0.2)(sin60)9.81

But this doesn't give me the answer given which is 4.07rad/s. Can highlight where did I go wrong?
You have only considered one component of the centripetal force: the component that acts parallel to the inclined rod. What about the other component that acts perpendicular to the inclined rod?
 
Hi, how do I go abt finding the force by rod on the slider in part(iii)?
 
Hootenanny said:
You have only considered one component of the centripetal force: the component that acts parallel to the inclined rod. What about the other component that acts perpendicular to the inclined rod?

Did I have anything wrong?
mrω2=μkmgcos30+mgtan60
 
haha1234 said:
Did I have anything wrong?
mrω2=μkmgcos30+mgtan60
@haha1234, this thread is about 2 years old and @Hootenanny is no longer active on PF.
 

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