Learn Basic Plasma Physics: What Else Do I Need?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the prerequisites for learning basic plasma physics, with participants sharing their recommendations for foundational knowledge and resources. The scope includes theoretical understanding, mathematical tools, and relevant textbooks.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest a strong background in classical electrodynamics is essential for understanding plasma physics, recommending texts such as Feynman's second volume and undergraduate E&M books.
  • Others emphasize the importance of Fourier transform theory and linear response theory, noting their applications in plasma physics.
  • Several participants mention the necessity of vector calculus, differential equations, and elementary linear algebra as foundational mathematical tools for studying plasma physics.
  • Some argue that knowledge of fluid mechanics, particularly Navier-Stokes equations, could be beneficial, though not strictly necessary.
  • There are differing opinions on the suitability of Chen's book as an introductory resource, with some endorsing it while others caution against certain other texts like Ichimaru's for beginners.
  • One participant suggests that familiarity with elementary kinetic theory from modern physics books could aid in understanding plasma physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of a solid foundation in electrodynamics and mathematics, but there are multiple competing views regarding the necessity of specific texts and the order of study. The discussion remains unresolved on the best approach to begin learning plasma physics.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the prerequisites and the varying complexity of plasma physics topics, indicating that the field is broad and may require different foundational knowledge depending on the specific area of interest.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in pursuing plasma physics, particularly those seeking guidance on foundational knowledge and resources before diving into the subject.

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I have a goal of learning basic plasma physics (perhaps from a book like Chen's?). Aside from finishing basic physics, what do I need to learn in order to learn plasma physics?

Thanks!
 
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Vardaan Bhat said:
I have a goal of learning basic plasma physics (perhaps from a book like Chen's?). Aside from finishing basic physics, what do I need to learn in order to learn plasma physics?

Thanks!
One thing that is used a lot in plasma physics is the Fourier transform of the dielectric response function ## \tilde{\epsilon}(k,\omega) ##. Comes from ## D(x,t)=\int \epsilon (r-r',t-t') E(x',t') d^3x' dt' ## along with Fourier transforms ## \tilde{D}(k,\omega)=\tilde{\epsilon} (k,\omega)\cdot \tilde{E}(k,\omega) ## by use of the Fourier transform convolution theorem in 3 spatial dimensions plus the time domain. (Se e.g. Plasma Physics by Ichimaru if it is still in print). I would recommend getting a good handle on Fourier transform theory along with linear response theory in one dimension (of the continuous variety) i.e. ## \tilde{F}(\omega)=\int F(t) exp^{-i \omega t} dt ##. Also it is helpful to have a strong background in vector calculus and electromagnetic theory.
 
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Vardaan Bhat said:
I have a goal of learning basic plasma physics (perhaps from a book like Chen's?). Aside from finishing basic physics, what do I need to learn in order to learn plasma physics?

Thanks!

Finish basic physics and basic math.
 
It would seem imperative to know a fair amount of classical electrodynamics to gain a meaningful understanding of plasma theory. I recommend that you study the heck out of Feynman's second volume and perhaps a good undergrad E&M book like Marion or Corson and Lorraine (probably both are out of print by now). Plasma physics is an incredibly broad subject: it includes resistive and non-resistive magnetohydrodynamics, solid-state plasmas, dilute plasmas best treated by kinetic theory, wave propagation in the ionosphere, ...

You should have an idea of which area is of greatest interest you before diving in too deeply. I took my first course in plasma dynamics concurrently with quantum theory and general relativity as a senior in college-- not sure I would have been ready before then.
Will
 
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You should do some studying in Griffiths electrododynamics and some basic fluid mechanics (navier stokes) before going into Chen. Chen is the best place to start in plasmas.
 
I agree that Chen's book is a good place to start. In order to understand most of the book, you primarily need to know electrodynamics as the level of Griffiths (and you can skip special relativity if you wish). It also helps if you know elementary kinetic theory as can be found in basic "modern physics" books (Tippler, for example). Knowing fluid dynamics first isn't necessary, but wouldn't hurt.

For the math, vector calculus, differential equations and elementary linear algebra will allow you to understand most of Chen. Being comfortable with Fourier analysis would make the waves chapter easier to interpret, but you can get a basic understanding withouta lot of knowledge. Contour integration is used some in chapter 7, but you can get a basic understanding of elementary plasma plasma physics without it.

While Charles Link is correct in general, you can learn a lot of physics from Chen without really learning linear response formalism. If i were you i would just dive into Chen right after griffiths. Also, i don't recommend any of Ichimaru's books for an introduction of any aspect of plasma physics for a beginner. My kinetic theory class was loosely based on volume 1 of "statistical plasma physics", which is no good for a beginner; the earlier version of that book, titled "Basic principles of plasma physics" is much better, but still not a good introduction to the field; "plasma physics: ..." is mostly a collection of topics chapters that cover some advanced topics very early...

I hope you enjoy the journey.

Jason
 

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