Learn Step-By-Step Factorization with New Equations

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The discussion revolves around the factorization of algebraic expressions, specifically the difference of squares. Participants explore various methods to factor two given equations and seek clarification on the steps involved in the process.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose using the difference of squares formula to factor the expression $(x-y)^2 - (x-z)^2$, identifying $a = x-y$ and $b = x-z$.
  • Others provide alternative methods for factoring the same expression, arriving at the result $(z-y)(2x-y-z)$, while noting that both methods yield equivalent results despite differences in presentation.
  • A participant questions the discrepancy between their result, which includes a negative leading factor, and the results provided by others, prompting a discussion on the equivalence of expressions with differing signs.
  • Another participant shares their attempt to apply the method to a new expression, $(x-3y)^2 - (y-x)^2$, and seeks assistance in identifying errors in their factorization process.
  • A later reply acknowledges the correctness of an intermediate step but suggests further factorization is possible, indicating that the expression can be simplified further.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods of factorization discussed, but there are competing views regarding the presentation of results, particularly concerning the leading negative sign in one participant's answer. The discussion remains unresolved as participants explore different approaches and clarify their understanding.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the terminology used, such as distinguishing between factoring and solving. There are also indications of missing assumptions in the factorization steps, particularly in the application of the difference of squares formula.

Who May Find This Useful

Students beginning to learn about algebraic factorization, particularly those interested in understanding the difference of squares and seeking clarification on common mistakes in the process.

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Hi, I am new to factorization. Would someone please solve these two equations and explain step by step what was done. thanks1. (x-y)^2 - (x-z)^2 =
2. (5x+2)^2 - (3x-4)^2 =
 
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Rigbee said:
Hi, I am new to factorization. Would someone please solve these two equations and explain step by step what was done. thanks1. (x-y)^2 - (x-z)^2 =
2. (5x+2)^2 - (3x-4)^2 =

For the first one, we have: $(x-y)^2 - (x-z)^2=x^2-2xy+y^2-x^2+2xz-z^2=-2xy+y^2+2xz-z^2\\ =2x(z-y)+(y-z)(y+z)=(z-y)(2x-y-z)$

Can you try the second one?
 
Rigbee said:
Hi, I am new to factorization. Would someone please solve these two equations and explain step by step what was done. thanks1. (x-y)^2 - (x-z)^2 =
2. (5x+2)^2 - (3x-4)^2 =

Hello and welcome to MHB, Rigbee!

Whenever you see an expression of the form:

$$a^2-b^2$$

This is called the difference of squares, and may be factored as follows:

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Difference of Squares

$$a^2-b^2=(a+b)(a-b)\tag{1}$$[/box]

So, for your first problem, you then identify:

$$a=x-y,\,b=x-z$$

And then plug them into the difference of squares formula (1):

$$(x-y)^2-(x-z)^2=((x-y)+(x-z))((x-y)-(x-z))$$

Now, remove the inner parentheses on the right (distributing as needed):

$$(x-y)^2-(x-z)^2=(x-y+x-z)(x-y-x+z)$$

Combine like terms:

$$(x-y)^2-(x-z)^2=(2x-y-z)(-y+z)$$

Now arrange with binomial factor in front, and with no leading negatives.

$$(x-y)^2-(x-z)^2=(z-y)(2x-y-z)$$

This gives you the same result as evinda, but does not require you to expand the squared binomials and your result is already factored. Either method is good, it just depends on your preference.

Incidentally, what we have done is called factoring, not solving. In order to solve, we need expressions on both sides of the equal sign so that we have an equation, and we need to know for which variable we are solving.

So, as suggested, try the second one, using either method...post your work and we will be glad to check it.
 
MarkFL said:
Hello and welcome to MHB, Rigbee!

Whenever you see an expression of the form:

$$a^2-b^2$$

This is called the difference of squares, and may be factored as follows:

[box=blue]
Difference of Squares

$$a^2-b^2=(a+b)(a-b)\tag{1}$$[/box]

So, for your first problem, you then identify:

$$a=x-y,\,b=x-z$$

And then plug them into the difference of squares formula (1):

$$(x-y)^2-(x-z)^2=((x-y)+(x-z))((x-y)-(x-z))$$

Now, remove the inner parentheses on the right (distributing as needed):

$$(x-y)^2-(x-z)^2=(x-y+x-z)(x-y-x+z)$$

Combine like terms:

$$(x-y)^2-(x-z)^2=(2x-y-z)(-y+z)$$

Now arrange with binomial factor in front, and with no leading negatives.

$$(x-y)^2-(x-z)^2=(z-y)(2x-y-z)$$

This gives you the same result as evinda, but does not require you to expand the squared binomials and your result is already factored. Either method is good, it just depends on your preference.

Incidentally, what we have done is called factoring, not solving. In order to solve, we need expressions on both sides of the equal sign so that we have an equation, and we need to know for which variable we are solving.

So, as suggested, try the second one, using either method...post your work and we will be glad to check it.

Thank you MarkFL and Evinda,

I'm only in grade 5 so I apologize if my questions are simplistic. I am just starting to learn factoring. I was told the answer is -(2x-y-z)(y-z) leading with the negative. Why is your answer different? If they are both correct, what did they do different to get this result? I'm trying to understand the steps necessary.
 
Rigbee said:
Thank you MarkFL and Evinda,

I'm only in grade 5 so I apologize if my questions are simplistic. I am just starting to learn factoring. I was told the answer is -(2x-y-z)(y-z) leading with the negative. Why is your answer different? If they are both correct, what did they do different to get this result? I'm trying to understand the steps necessary.

The answers are the same, note that Mark's answer has $(z - y)$ while yours has $(y - z)$. And as you hopefully know, $(z - y) = (-1)(y - z) = -(y - z)$ which is where the negative sign comes from :)
 
I tried your method with this equation:

(x-3y)^2 - (y-x)^2

step one [(x-3y) + (y-x)] [(x-3y) - (y-x)]

step two (x-3y-y+x) (x-3y+y-x)

step three -2y(2x-4y)

final step -2y(x-2y) I know this is incorrect, I just need some help identifying what I am missing. Thanks
 
Rigbee said:
I tried your method with this equation:

(x-3y)^2 - (y-x)^2

step one [(x-3y) + (y-x)] [(x-3y) - (y-x)]

step two (x-3y-y+x) (x-3y+y-x)

step three -2y(2x-4y)

final step -2y(x-2y) I know this is incorrect, I just need some help identifying what I am missing. Thanks
Your answer in step 3 is correct as far as it goes. But the reason it might be considered incorrect is that you can still factor a 2 out of the second factor. ie -4y(x - 2y).

-Dan
 

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