Legendre's ODE: Fundamental Solution for L = 2, 3, 4...

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The discussion revolves around finding the fundamental solutions for the ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by $$f''(x)+\cot (x) f'(x) + \left( 2-\frac{L^2}{\sin(x)} \right) f(x) = 0$$ for values of \(L = 2, 3, 4, \ldots\). Participants explore the nature of the solutions, particularly in the context of Legendre functions and associated Legendre equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially presents a solution for the ODE but expresses uncertainty about finding a general solution for \(L \geq 2\).
  • Multiple participants question the correctness of the original equation, suggesting a possible typo and proposing an alternative form that leads to the associated Legendre equation.
  • Another participant notes that for \(L \geq 2\), \(P_1^L = 0\) identically, indicating a potential lack of solutions and raising the question of what the second solution might be.
  • Some participants mention that there are non-trivial solutions for \(L \geq 2\) and refer to them as Legendre functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to clarify the equation and acknowledge the existence of Legendre functions for \(L \geq 2\). However, there is no consensus on the specific form of the second solution or the implications of the equation's structure.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights a potential typo in the original equation and the implications of using the associated Legendre equation. There are unresolved questions regarding the second solution for the ODE, particularly for values of \(L \geq 2\).

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Hi PF!

I'm wondering what the fundamental solution is for this ODE
$$
f''(x)+\cot (x) f'(x) + \left( 2-\frac{L^2}{\sin(x)} \right) f(x) = 0 : L = 2,3,4...
$$

I know one solution is $$
(\cos(x)+L)\left(\frac{1-\cos(s)}{1+\cos(s)}\right)^{L/2}
$$
but I don't know the other. Mathematica isn't much help here, as it only gives me a solution but not for ##L=1## (Legendre Polynomials) but not a general solution for ##L\geq 2##. Any help is very appreciated!
 
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Are you sure that your equation is correct?
If it instead would be
##f''(x)+\cot(x)f'(x)+(2-\frac{L^2}{\sin(x)^2})f(x)=0##,
it is the associated Legendre equation.
 
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eys_physics said:
Are you sure that your equation is correct?
If it instead would be
##f''(x)+\cot(x)f'(x)+(2-\frac{L^2}{\sin(x)^2})f(x)=0##,
it is the associated Legendre equation.
Thanks, you're correct, I made a typo. Ughhh such a dumb mistake!
 
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eys_physics said:
Are you sure that your equation is correct?
If it instead would be
##f''(x)+\cot(x)f'(x)+(2-\frac{L^2}{\sin(x)^2})f(x)=0##,
it is the associated Legendre equation.
So I'm thinking about this, and if ##L \geq 2## then ##P_1^L = 0## identically. Thus, we only have one solution for the ##L \geq 2## case. But the ODE is second order, so we must be missing something. Clearly ##Q_1^L(\cos x)## is one solution, but what would the second be?
 
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eys_physics said:
Well, there are non-trivial solutions. But, for ##L\geq 2## they are the so-called Legendre functions, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legendre_function .
I saw this just before you posted it., but thanks a bunch!
 

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