Let A and B be relations on the set C = {1,2,3,4,5,6}

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The problem involves analyzing the properties of relations A and B defined on the set C = {1,2,3,4,5,6}, specifically investigating whether the union of these relations, A U B, retains the property of symmetry if both A and B are symmetric.

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  • Participants discuss the definition of the union of relations and its implications for symmetry. Questions arise about how to express the union and the conditions for symmetry in this context.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the definition of A U B and its relation to symmetry, while others are exploring the implications of these definitions. There is an ongoing dialogue about the conditions that need to be satisfied for the union to be symmetric.

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There is uncertainty regarding the definition of the union of relations and how it affects the symmetry property, which may impact the direction of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Let A and B be relations on the set C = {1,2,3,4,5,6}. Prove or disprove the following:

If A and B are symmetric, then A U B is symmetric.


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The main problem is that I don't know how A U B is defined.

In general, a relation R is a subset of A x B. For example, {(1,1), (1,2)} is one relation. (ie. I can write 1 R 1, and 1 R 2.)

Symmetric means that for all x, y in C, if x R y then y R x.

I know A U B would be read "A or B", but I don't understand it? Is it like (x A y) or (x B y)?

Then I don't get what A U B would look like if it was symmetric.

Then to prove it you suppose that if x A y then y A x. You also suppose that if x B y then y B x.

From here I don't know what I'm supposed to show...
 
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AUB means the union of the sets A and B. It's the union of the set of all of the ordered pairs defining the A relation with all of the ordered pairs defining the B relation. If x AUB y, then either x A y or x B y. Does that help?
 
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So would it be:

x RUS y if (x R y or x S y) ?

And the condition for symmetry is if x RUS y then y RUS x?
 


pearapple said:
So would it be:

x RUS y if (x R y or x S y) ?

And the condition for symmetry is if x RUS y then y RUS x?

Exactly.
 


Perfect, thanks!
 

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