Lewis H Ryder: Cartesian to Polar Coord Transformations

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The discussion focuses on the transformation between Cartesian coordinates and polar coordinates, specifically addressing Lewis H. Ryder's method. A key point of confusion was identified regarding a sign typo in Ryder's definition of the variable ##r##, where the exponent should be ##1/2## instead of ##-1/2##. The participants clarified the calculation of partial derivatives, demonstrating that ##\frac{\partial x}{\partial r} = \cos\theta## and providing a pathway to complete the derivative of ##r## with respect to ##x##.

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I had a problem understanding an example in the page 60-61 In Lewis's Ryder's Book
The example is about the transformation between the cartesian coordinates and polar coordinates using the definition
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In lewis Ryder's solution, I got confused in this specific line
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I really can't see how is that straightforward to find?
 
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I'm reasonably sure you're overthinking this (although there is a sign typo in his definition of ##r##: his "##-1/2##" exponent should be "##1/2##").

Your boxed section is just the definition of partial derivative. I.e., ##\frac{\partial x}{\partial r}## means the derivative of ##x## by ##r##, with ##\theta## treated as a constant. So... $$\frac{\partial x}{\partial r} ~=~ \frac{\partial (r \cos\theta)}{\partial r} ~=~ \cos\theta \, \frac{dr}{dr} ~=~ \cos\theta ~,$$and $$\frac{\partial r}{\partial x} ~=~ \frac{\partial (x^2+y^2)^{1/2}}{\partial x} ~=~ \frac{1}{2} (x^2+y^2)^{-1/2} (2x) ~=~ x/r ~=~ \dots$$(Can you complete the last step?)
 
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strangerep said:
I'm reasonably sure you're overthinking this (although there is a sign typo in his definition of ##r##: his "##-1/2##" exponent should be "##1/2##").

Your boxed section is just the definition of partial derivative. I.e., ##\frac{\partial x}{\partial r}## means the derivative of ##x## by ##r##, with ##\theta## treated as a constant. So... $$\frac{\partial x}{\partial r} ~=~ \frac{\partial (r \cos\theta)}{\partial r} ~=~ \cos\theta \, \frac{dr}{dr} ~=~ \cos\theta ~,$$and $$\frac{\partial r}{\partial x} ~=~ \frac{\partial (x^2+y^2)^{1/2}}{\partial x} ~=~ \frac{1}{2} (x^2+y^2)^{-1/2} (2x) ~=~ x/r ~=~ \dots$$(Can you complete the last step?)
Oh you are absolutely righ, I overthinked that haha and yes i can complete the last step ^^ thanks for your help I appreciate it
 

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