Lim of trig functions. Does it exist?

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The discussion revolves around the limit of the function (cos^-1(x))/(1-x) as x approaches 1 from the left. Participants are exploring whether this limit exists and the implications of encountering an indeterminate form of 0/0.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the limit and the implications of the 0/0 indeterminate form. There are attempts to simplify the expression and explore different substitutions, such as letting y = 1-x.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the interpretation of the indeterminate form and providing examples of other limits that fall into the same category. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of limits and indeterminate forms, but no consensus has been reached on the original limit in question.

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There is a focus on understanding indeterminate forms and their implications for limits, with references to specific examples that illustrate different outcomes. The original poster's setup and assumptions are being examined, but no definitive resolution has been provided.

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1. Does the limit exist of the following:

lim as x→ 1- ((cos^-1(x))/(1-x))



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3. The Attempt at a Solution :

lim as x→ 1- ((cos^-1(x))/(1-x))
= lim as x→ 1- (cos^-1(x))/ lim as x→ 1-(1-x)

Let y = 1-x

lim as y→0 (cos^-1(1-y)) / lim as y→0 (y)
= 0/0 therefore limit of the entire function as x→1- is ∞
 
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Sorry, 0/0 is an indeterminate form.
 
So 0/0 = Limit doesn't exist ?
 
Not necessarily.

For example, the limit of sin(x)/x as x approaches 0 is equal to 1.
 
Let ##x = cos(y)##, this may help to simplify things.

If not, I would leave this question for later.
 
mathgeek69 said:
So 0/0 = Limit doesn't exist ?
[0/0] is one of several indeterminate forms. The "indeterminate" part means that you can't tell if an expression with this form has a limit, and if it does, what that limit will be.

Some of the other indeterminate forms are [∞/∞], [∞ - ∞], and [1].

All of the limits below are of the [0/0] indeterminate form:
$$ 1. \lim_{x \to 0}\frac{x^2}{x}$$
$$ 2. \lim_{x \to 0}\frac{x}{x^2}$$
$$ 3. \lim_{x \to 0}\frac{x}{x}$$
In #1, the limit is 0; in #2, the limit doesn't exist; in #3, the limit is 1.
 
Mark44 said:
[0/0] is one of several indeterminate forms. The "indeterminate" part means that you can't tell if an expression with this form has a limit, and if it does, what that limit will be.

Some of the other indeterminate forms are [∞/∞], [∞ - ∞], and [1].

All of the limits below are of the [0/0] indeterminate form:
$$ 1. \lim_{x \to 0}\frac{x^2}{x}$$
$$ 2. \lim_{x \to 0}\frac{x}{x^2}$$
$$ 3. \lim_{x \to 0}\frac{x}{x}$$
In #1, the limit is 0; in #2, the limit doesn't exist; in #3, the limit is 1.

I think you switched #1 and #2. In #1, the limit doesn't exist, and in #2, the limit is 0.
 
Mark44 said:
[0/0] is one of several indeterminate forms. The "indeterminate" part means that you can't tell if an expression with this form has a limit, and if it does, what that limit will be.

Some of the other indeterminate forms are [∞/∞], [∞ - ∞], and [1].

All of the limits below are of the [0/0] indeterminate form:
$$ 1. \lim_{x \to 0}\frac{x^2}{x}$$
$$ 2. \lim_{x \to 0}\frac{x}{x^2}$$
$$ 3. \lim_{x \to 0}\frac{x}{x}$$
In #1, the limit is 0; in #2, the limit doesn't exist; in #3, the limit is 1.

eumyang said:
I think you switched #1 and #2. In #1, the limit doesn't exist, and in #2, the limit is 0.

I don't think so. Factor x/x out of each and see what you get.
 

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