Lim t approaches 9 9-t/3-sqrt of t

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit as \( t \) approaches 9 for the expression \( \frac{9-t}{3-\sqrt{t}} \). Participants are exploring the algebraic manipulation of the expression, particularly the use of conjugates and factoring.

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  • Participants discuss multiplying by the conjugate to simplify the expression and question the correctness of their algebraic manipulations. Some express confusion over the cancellation of terms and the resulting limit value.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different algebraic approaches to the limit problem. Some participants have provided guidance on how to properly factor the expression and keep track of the limit notation, while others are still clarifying their understanding of the steps involved.

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Some participants note the importance of using proper notation, such as parentheses and limit symbols, to avoid misinterpretation of the expression. There is also mention of the need for clearer communication in the posts to enhance understanding.

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... Lim t approaches 9 9-t/3-sqrt of t. First I multiplied the conjugate of 3 + sqrt of t to both numerator and denominator. I got 27+9 sqrt of t - 4t / 9-t ... I plug 9 to t. Denominator cancels out. I got 18 but answer states 6. How?
 
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CrossFit415 said:
... Lim t approaches 9 9-t/3-sqrt of t. First I multiplied the conjugate of 3 + sqrt of t to both numerator and denominator. I got 27+9 sqrt of t - 4t / 9-t ... I plug 9 to t. Denominator cancels out.

Your numerator after multiplying by [tex]3 + \sqrt{t}[/tex] is incorrect! You shouldn't expand everything out like that. After multiplying, keep the numerator, and try canceling out instead.

Oh, and by the way, you should learn https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=8997" to make your post much clearer. Just take a look at the page I gave. Learning LaTeX isn't very hard, but I assure that it'll give your post a whole new look. Just give it a try. :)
 
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CrossFit415 said:
... Lim t approaches 9 9-t/3-sqrt of t.

At the very least, use enough parentheses to make it clear what you mean. Knowledgeable people would reasonably interpret the expression you wrote as
[tex]9 - \frac{t}{3} - \sqrt{t}[/tex]

Even without using LaTeX you could write your limit like this: lim(t -> 9) (9 - t)/(3 - sqrt(t))
 
Lim t ---> 9

[tex]\frac{(9-t)}{(3-\sqrt{t})}[/tex]
 
Here's how I did it...

[tex]\frac{9-t}{3-\sqrt{t}}[/tex] ([tex]\frac{3+\sqrt{t}}{3+\sqrt{t}}[/tex]) =

[tex]\frac{27+9\sqrt{t}-3t-t\sqrt{t}}{9-t}[/tex]

Plugged in 9 for t...

then I got a different answer than 6.
 
CrossFit415 said:
Here's how I did it...

[tex]\frac{9-t}{3-\sqrt{t}}[/tex] ([tex]\frac{3+\sqrt{t}}{3+\sqrt{t}}[/tex]) =

[tex]\frac{27+9\sqrt{t}-3t-t\sqrt{t}}{9-t}[/tex]

Plugged in 9 for t...

then I got a different answer than 6.
No, don't do that. Instead, notice that when you did multiply the denominator by its conjugate you got
[tex](3 - \sqrt{t})(3 + \sqrt{t}) = 9 - t[/tex]
?

What you should do is FACTOR the numerator, which is (sort of) a difference of two squares:
[tex]\displaystyle\lim_{t \rightarrow 9} \frac{9 - t}{3 - \sqrt{t}} = \displaystyle\lim_{t \rightarrow 9} \frac{(3 - \sqrt{t})(3 + \sqrt{t})}{3 - \sqrt{t}}[/tex]

Can you take it from here?
 
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Just keep the numerator as (9-t)(3+sqrt(t)) so it will cancel out with the denominator. What is left is 3+sqrt(t).
 
Thanks a lot for your help everyone. It makes a lot of sense now.
 
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Yea I got it

[tex]\frac{(9-t)(3+\sqrt{t}}{(9-t)}[/tex]

=3+[tex]\sqrt{t}[/tex]

=6

Thank you. :)
 
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CrossFit415 said:
Yea I got it

[tex]\frac{(9-t)(3+\sqrt{t}}{(9-t)}[/tex]

= 3+[tex]\sqrt{t}[/tex]

= 6

Thank you. :)

The last two expressions above aren't equal. What you are missing is any indication that you are taking a limit.


What you have above should be written like this.
[tex]\lim_{t \to 9}\frac{(9-t)(3+\sqrt{t}}{(9-t)}[/tex]

[tex]=\lim_{t \to 9}3+\sqrt{t}[/tex]

= 6
If you omit the limit symbols, your instructor is likely to deduct points from your work.
 

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