Finding the limit of a quotient as x goes to minus infinity

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of the expression $$\lim_{x\to-\infty} \frac{\sqrt{9x^6 - x}}{x^3 + 9}$$, focusing on the behavior of the function as x approaches negative infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the method of dividing the numerator and denominator by ##x^3## to simplify the limit. There is a focus on the implications of x being negative, particularly regarding the signs of terms in the expression.

Discussion Status

Some participants have pointed out potential errors in the original poster's reasoning related to the treatment of negative values of x. Clarifications have been made regarding the need to consider the absolute value of x when dealing with square roots and negative powers. There is an ongoing exploration of how these adjustments affect the limit.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of limits involving negative infinity and square roots, with some expressing common confusion about sign conventions in these scenarios.

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Homework Statement


Find the limit
$$\lim_{x\to-\infty} \frac{\sqrt{9x^6 - x}}{x^3 + 9}$$

Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


To solve this, I start off by dividing everything by ##x^3##:
Numerator becomes ##\frac{\sqrt{9x^6 - x}}{x^3} = \sqrt{\frac{9x^6 - x}{x^6}} = \sqrt{9 - \frac{1}{x^5}}##
Denominator becomes ##\frac{x^3 + 9}{x^3} = 1 + \frac{9}{x^3}##
As ##x## approaches ##-\infty##:
Numerator becomes ##\sqrt{9 - 0} = \sqrt{9} = 3##
Denominator becomes ##1 + 0 = 1##
So, the entire limit should evaluate to ##\frac{\sqrt{9}}{1} = 3##. Yet this is not the case. What am I doing wrong?
 
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cmkluza said:
##\frac{\sqrt{9x^6 - x}}{x^3} = \sqrt{\frac{9x^6 - x}{x^6}}##
That is not correct if ##x## is negative. How should you adjust it for ##x## negative?
 
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Yet this is not the case. Why not? That's the only thing wrong I can see.
 
andrewkirk said:
That is not correct if ##x## is negative. How should you adjust it for ##x## negative?
Ah, now I remember. Because ##x## is approaching minus infinity, it will be negative: ##x^3## should be negative if ##x## is negative, but ##x^6## would return a positive number. So, I just need to switch the sign in that equation, right? ##\frac{\sqrt{9x^6 - x}}{x^3} = -\sqrt{\frac{9x^6 - x}{x^6}}## Therefore the answer is -3, not 3.

I don't know why, but I always forget to consider positives/negatives when working around square roots. Thanks a bunch for your clarification!
 
Hope you don't feel so alone now. :redface:
 
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cmkluza said:
To solve this, I start off by dividing everything by ##x^3##:
Numerator becomes ##\frac{\sqrt{9x^6 - x}}{x^3} = \sqrt{\frac{9x^6 - x}{x^6}} = \sqrt{9 - \frac{1}{x^5}}##
Denominator becomes ##\frac{x^3 + 9}{x^3} = 1 + \frac{9}{x^3}##
##\frac{\sqrt{9x^6 - x}}{x^3} = \frac{|x^3|\sqrt{9 - \frac 1 {x^5}}}{x^3}##
The fraction ##\frac{|x^3|}{x^3}## evaluates to -1 if x < 0, and 1 if x > 0.
 
cmkluza said:

Homework Statement


Find the limit
$$\lim_{x\to-\infty} \frac{\sqrt{9x^6 - x}}{x^3 + 9}$$

Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


To solve this, I start off by dividing everything by ##x^3##:
Numerator becomes ##\frac{\sqrt{9x^6 - x}}{x^3} = \sqrt{\frac{9x^6 - x}{x^6}} = \sqrt{9 - \frac{1}{x^5}}##
Denominator becomes ##\frac{x^3 + 9}{x^3} = 1 + \frac{9}{x^3}##
As ##x## approaches ##-\infty##:
Numerator becomes ##\sqrt{9 - 0} = \sqrt{9} = 3##
Denominator becomes ##1 + 0 = 1##
So, the entire limit should evaluate to ##\frac{\sqrt{9}}{1} = 3##. Yet this is not the case. What am I doing wrong?

Sometimes it helps to convert everything to positives, by putting ##x = -t## and taking ##t \to +\infty##. That does not really change anything, but it eliminates one possible source of confusion/error.
 

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