Limit of (3/4)^(n+1) as n approaches infinity

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of the expression (3/4)^(n+1) as n approaches infinity. Participants explore various methods to analyze this limit, including the application of L'Hôpital's rule, properties of continuous functions, and the behavior of sequences. The conversation includes both conceptual understanding and mathematical reasoning.

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  • One participant attempts to apply L'Hôpital's rule to evaluate the limit but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their approach.
  • Another participant argues that L'Hôpital's rule is unnecessary and suggests that the limit can be evaluated directly by recognizing that (3/4)^n approaches 0 as n approaches infinity.
  • Some participants explain that since (3/4) is less than 1, the limit of (3/4)^n as n approaches infinity is 0, referencing a general theorem about limits of powers of numbers less than 1.
  • There is a discussion about the notation of c^∞ and whether it is appropriate, with suggestions for clearer expressions of the limit.
  • One participant emphasizes the intuitive understanding that continually multiplying by a fraction less than 1 results in smaller and smaller values.

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Participants generally agree that the limit approaches 0 as n approaches infinity, although there are differing opinions on the necessity of L'Hôpital's rule and the clarity of certain notations. The discussion does not resolve all nuances regarding the methods used to arrive at this conclusion.

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Some participants mention the importance of continuity in functions when discussing limits, and there are references to theorems that apply to composite functions. However, the discussion does not delve into the specific mathematical justifications for these claims.

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Hello,

I was just wondering how to solve this limit: Limit of (3/4)^(n+1) as n approaches infinity

My attempt:
(3/4)^(n+1) = (3^ (n+1) ) / (4 ^ (n+1))
Top goes to infinity and bottom goes to infinity to use l'hopital rule.
lim = ( ln(3) * 1 * 3^(n+1) ) / ( ln(4) * 1 * 4^(n+1) )

But the correct answer is apparently 0.
Not sure if I'm totally wrong or if I'm just halfway there.

Thanks
 
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I don't think this requires l'hopital's rule. We have $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}(3/4)^{n+1}=\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}(3/4)^n$.
Because $(3/4)^n$ is a continuous function, we can bring the limit inside to get $(3/4)^{\infty}=0$.

EDIT:

I suppose you could also do it this way:

$e^{\ln(3/4)^n}=e^{n \ln(3/4)}=e^{-n\ln(4/3)}$
Hence, $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}e^{-n\ln(4/3)}=e^{-\infty}=0$
 
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Rido12 said:
I don't think this requires l'hopital's rule. We have $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}(3/4)^{n+1}=\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}(3/4)^n$.
Because $(3/4)^n$ is a continuous function, we can bring the limit inside to get $(3/4)^{\infty}=0$.

I'm just learnign about sequences right now.
What does making the limit inside mean?
Do you mean something like it becomes lim(3^(n+1) / lim(4^(n+1))
and because the denominator is bigger than the numerator it goes to zero?
 
For any $$|x|<1,\quad\lim_{n\to\infty}x^n=0$$
 
seal308 said:
Do you mean something like it becomes lim(3^(n+1) / lim(4^(n+1))
and because the denominator is bigger than the numerator it goes to zero?

This is essentially the intuition behind why the limit goes to zero. For example, if we take a number $c$ such that $|c|<1$, then obviously $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}c^{n}=0$. In this case, $c=3/4$.

There is a theorem that states for a composite function $f(g(x)$, that $\lim_{{x}\to{a}}f(g(x)=f(\lim_{{x}\to{a}}g(x))$ if $f$ is continuous at $g(a)$. In this case, we have $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}(3/4)^n=(3/4)^{\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}n}=(3/4)^{\infty}=0$.
 
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Rido12 said:
This is essentially the intuition behind why the limit goes to zero. For example, if we take a number $c$ such that $|c|<1$, then obviously $c^{\infty}=0$. In this case, $c=3/4$.

There is a theorem that states for a composite function $f(g(x)$, that $\lim_{{x}\to{a}}f(g(x)=f(\lim_{{x}\to{a}}g(x))$ if $f$ is continuous at $g(a)$. In this case, we have $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}(3/4)^n=(3/4)^{\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}n}=(3/4)^{\infty}=0$.

Wow thanks, that makes so much sense.
Ty everyone.
 
$c^{\infty}$ is not really defined notation. It's much clearer to write that:
$$\lim_{n \to \infty} c^n = 0$$
Which can be proven for $\lvert c \rvert < 1$ through e.g. sequences and stuff.
 
Bacterius said:
$c^{\infty}$ is not really defined notation. It's much clearer to write that:
$$\lim_{n \to \infty} c^n = 0$$
Which can be proven for $\lvert c \rvert < 1$ through e.g. sequences and stuff.

I thought that would be an issue, but thought the OP would understand it better if written in a more explicit fashion. Anyway, I have edited it to reflect this.
 
The OP needs to realize that when multiplying an amount by a small fraction (i.e. with a size less than 1) you get a SMALLER number as a result. So continually multiplying by a small fraction will continually result in a smaller amount.
 

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