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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of the expression (y^(1/3) - 1) / (y^(1/5) - 1) as y approaches 1. Participants are exploring the application of the difference of powers formula and substitution techniques to simplify the expression.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of the difference of powers identity to factor the expression. There are suggestions to substitute y with x^15 to facilitate simplification. Some participants seek clarification on the steps involved in the solution and the reasoning behind the factorization.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to factor the expression and simplify the limit. Some participants have provided insights and suggestions, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method yet.

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Participants are working under the assumption that y approaches 1, and there is a focus on understanding the algebraic manipulation involved in the limit evaluation. The discussion includes references to identities and substitutions that may aid in the simplification process.

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Homework Statement



Lim x>1 (y^1/3-1)/((y^1/5-1)

Homework Equations



Difference of powers a^n-b^n=(a-b)*(a^n-1*b^0+a^n-2*b^1...+b^n-1)

The Attempt at a Solution



Scanned and attached the solution...

Can anyone Pls explain the steps in the solution, especially, how you factor out such an ugly function.
 

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[tex]y-1\equiv (y^{1/3})^3-1\equiv (y^{1/n})^n-1[/tex], n being a natural number.

Does this clear things up?
 
joshiemen said:

Homework Statement



Lim x>1 (y^1/3-1)/((y^1/5-1)


Homework Equations



Difference of powers a^n-b^n=(a-b)*(a^n-1*b^0+a^n-2*b^1...+b^n-1)


The Attempt at a Solution



Scanned and attached the solution...

Can anyone Pls explain the steps in the solution, especially, how you factor out such an ugly function.

you can actually substitute y=x^15 , as y>1 , x>1
hence obtaining x>1 (x^5-1)/(x^3-1)
try to divide x-1 from top and bottom

There is this identity:
x^n -1 =(x-1)[x^(n-1) + x^(n-2) + ... + 1 ]

Continue from here =D
 
icystrike said:
you can actually substitute y=x^15 , as y>1 , x>1
hence obtaining x>1 (x^5-1)/(x^3-1)
try to divide x-1 from top and bottom

There is this identity:
x^n -1 =(x-1)[x^(n-1) + x^(n-2) + ... + 1 ]

Continue from here =D

:) THANK YOU!

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Mentallic said:
[tex]y-1\equiv (y^{1/3})^3-1\equiv (y^{1/n})^n-1[/tex], n being a natural number.

Does this clear things up?

Could you elaborate on this further pls? not so clear, i have been staring at it and thinking, have not penetrated the wall of ignorance yet.
 
joshiemen said:
Could you elaborate on this further pls? not so clear, i have been staring at it and thinking, have not penetrated the wall of ignorance yet.

It's essentially the same as icystrike's suggestion.

For [tex]y-1=(y^{1/3})^3-1[/tex] if you substitute [tex]x=y^{1/3}[/tex] or equivalently, [tex]x^3=y[/tex] then we have [tex]x^3-1=(x)^3-1[/tex]

So if you have [tex]y-1[/tex] to factorize this using a difference of two cubes, you substitute [tex]x^3=y[/tex] or if you can see what is happening without substitution, you let [tex]y-1=(y^{1/3})^3-1^3=(y^{1/3}-1)(y^{2/3}+y^{1/3}+1)[/tex]
 

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