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Homework Statement



Lim x>1 (y^1/3-1)/((y^1/5-1)

Homework Equations



Difference of powers a^n-b^n=(a-b)*(a^n-1*b^0+a^n-2*b^1...+b^n-1)

The Attempt at a Solution



Scanned and attached the solution...

Can anyone Pls explain the steps in the solution, especially, how you factor out such an ugly function.
 

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joshiemen said:

Homework Statement



Lim x>1 (y^1/3-1)/((y^1/5-1)


Homework Equations



Difference of powers a^n-b^n=(a-b)*(a^n-1*b^0+a^n-2*b^1...+b^n-1)


The Attempt at a Solution



Scanned and attached the solution...

Can anyone Pls explain the steps in the solution, especially, how you factor out such an ugly function.

you can actually substitute y=x^15 , as y>1 , x>1
hence obtaining x>1 (x^5-1)/(x^3-1)
try to divide x-1 from top and bottom

There is this identity:
x^n -1 =(x-1)[x^(n-1) + x^(n-2) + ... + 1 ]

Continue from here =D
 
icystrike said:
you can actually substitute y=x^15 , as y>1 , x>1
hence obtaining x>1 (x^5-1)/(x^3-1)
try to divide x-1 from top and bottom

There is this identity:
x^n -1 =(x-1)[x^(n-1) + x^(n-2) + ... + 1 ]

Continue from here =D

:) THANK YOU!

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Mentallic said:
[tex]y-1\equiv (y^{1/3})^3-1\equiv (y^{1/n})^n-1[/tex], n being a natural number.

Does this clear things up?

Could you elaborate on this further pls? not so clear, i have been staring at it and thinking, have not penetrated the wall of ignorance yet.
 
joshiemen said:
Could you elaborate on this further pls? not so clear, i have been staring at it and thinking, have not penetrated the wall of ignorance yet.

It's essentially the same as icystrike's suggestion.

For [tex]y-1=(y^{1/3})^3-1[/tex] if you substitute [tex]x=y^{1/3}[/tex] or equivalently, [tex]x^3=y[/tex] then we have [tex]x^3-1=(x)^3-1[/tex]

So if you have [tex]y-1[/tex] to factorize this using a difference of two cubes, you substitute [tex]x^3=y[/tex] or if you can see what is happening without substitution, you let [tex]y-1=(y^{1/3})^3-1^3=(y^{1/3}-1)(y^{2/3}+y^{1/3}+1)[/tex]