Limits of Sequences .... Sohrab Exercise 2.2.7

In summary: N ...| \frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } - 0 | = \frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } \lt \frac{ 1 }{ na } = ( \frac{ 1 }{ n } ) ( \frac{ 1 }{ a } ) \lt \epsilon^* ( \frac{ 1 }{ a } ) = \epsilon a ( \frac{ 1 }{ a } ) = \epsilon Is that correct?No.This is because $|\frac{1}{1+na}-0|eq \frac{1}{1+na}$.
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I am reading Houshang H. Sohrab's book: "Basic Real Analysis" (Second Edition).

I am focused on Chapter 2: Sequences and Series of Real Numbers ... ...

I need help with a part of Exercise 2.2.7 Part (1) ... ...

Exercise 2.2.7 Part (1) reads as follows:View attachment 7189I have managed a solution to this exercise and am posting it because

(1) I am unsure that the proof is valid/correct ... particularly given my arithmetic on \epsilon ...

(2) I did not use Sohrab's hint ... and that concerns me ... but I am also interested in how Bernoulli's Inequality is used in this proof ... I can see how to simply involve Bernoulli's Inequality, but not how to use it profitably ...

My proof is as follows:

To show \(\displaystyle \text{lim } ( \frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } ) = 0\) where \(\displaystyle n \in \mathbb{N} \) ...

We have \(\displaystyle | \frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } - 0 | = \frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } \lt \frac{ 1 }{ na }\)

Now for \(\displaystyle \epsilon \gt 0\) let \(\displaystyle \frac{ 1 }{ na } \lt \epsilon\)

Then let \(\displaystyle \epsilon = \frac{\epsilon^*}{a}\) so that \(\displaystyle \epsilon^* = a \epsilon\) ...

Then we have :

\(\displaystyle \frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } \lt \frac{\epsilon^*}{a} \Longrightarrow \frac{ 1 }{ n } \lt \epsilon^*\) ...So ... choose \(\displaystyle N\) so that \(\displaystyle \frac{ 1 }{ N } \lt \epsilon^*\) ...

So that then we have ... for \(\displaystyle n \gt N\) ...

\(\displaystyle | \frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } - 0 | = \frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } \lt \frac{ 1 }{ na } = ( \frac{ 1 }{ n } ) ( \frac{ 1 }{ a } ) \lt \epsilon^* ( \frac{ 1 }{ a } ) = \epsilon a ( \frac{ 1 }{ a } ) = \epsilon \)

Is that correct?

and further ...

Can someone please indicate how Bernoulli's Inequality is used in a proof ...

Peter==========================================================================================

To help readers understand Sohrab's notation I am posting his definitions of convergence of a sequence and the limit of a sequence ... as follows:View attachment 7190
 
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Peter said:
To show \(\displaystyle \text{lim } ( \frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } ) = 0\) where \(\displaystyle n \in \mathbb{N} \) ...

We have \(\displaystyle | \frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } - 0 | = \frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } \lt \frac{ 1 }{ na }\)
To produce large left and right delimiters that correspond to the size of the formula inside, write \left before the left delimiter and \right before the right one, e.g., \left|\frac{1}{1+na }-0\right| to produce \(\displaystyle \left|\frac{1}{1+na }-0\right|\) (ideally it should be \left\lvert\frac{1}{1+na }-0\right\rvert).

Peter said:
Now for \(\displaystyle \epsilon \gt 0\) let \(\displaystyle \frac{ 1 }{ na } \lt \epsilon\)
The previous line said \(\displaystyle \left|\frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } - 0\right| = \frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } \lt \frac{ 1 }{ na }\). Implicitly, it is preceded by the universal quantifier $\forall n$, and the scope of this quantifiers ends at the end of the formula. This means that using $n$ is fine inside the formula, but outside $n$ is undefined. So saying "let $1/na<\epsilon$ produces an error message "$n$ is undefined" and a buzz
[YOUTUBE]FRpq7o1mKXY[/YOUTUBE]
after which the proof checking stops.

In fact, it is not a good idea to say things like "let $E$ equal ..." or "let $E$ be less than $\epsilon$" where $E$ is an expression and not an individual variable. What if it is impossible to satisfy this formula due to the shape of $E$? For example, it makes no sense to say "Let $1/(1+x^2)>2$" for a real $x$.

I would say, "Fix an arbitrary $\epsilon>0$. Then there exists an $n$ such that $1/na<\epsilon$".

By the way, strictly speaking it is also not good to write, "$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{1}{1+na}=0$ where $n\in\mathbb{N}$" because $\lim_{n\to\infty}$ is a variable-binding construction. It introduces a local variable $n$ that can be used only inside the expression that follows $\lim$ and is not defined outside of it. Other examples of variable-binding constructions are $\sum_{n=1}^\infty$ and $\int_0^1\dots\,dx$. One cannot say, "Consider $\sum_{n=1}^\infty 1/n^2$ where $n$ is even" or "$\int_0^1 x^2\,dx=1/3$ for $x=1/2$". In this example, $n\in\mathbb{N}$ is probably not necessary since $n$ is usually assumed to denote natural (rather than real) numbers (this reminds the implicit variable type convention in Fortran). But if it is not clear, one could say that $n$ ranges over natural numbers: this implies that $n$ is a placeholder rather than a fixed value.

Peter said:
Then let \(\displaystyle \epsilon = \frac{\epsilon^*}{a}\) so that \(\displaystyle \epsilon^* = a \epsilon\)
Should be: "Let \(\displaystyle \epsilon^* = a \epsilon\) so that \(\displaystyle \epsilon = \frac{\epsilon^*}{a}\)". This is because $\epsilon$ is already fixed and one cannot redefine it with "Let $\epsilon=\ldots$" (and it reads like a definition of $\epsilon$ at first glance rather than a definition of $\epsilon^*$, which it is).

Peter said:
Then we have :

\(\displaystyle \frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } \lt \frac{\epsilon^*}{a} \Longrightarrow \frac{ 1 }{ n } \lt \epsilon^*\)
This implication is in general false, for example, for $a=1$.
 
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Peter said:
I need help with a part of Exercise 2.2.7 Part (1) ... ...

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(1) I am unsure that the proof is valid/correct ... particularly given my arithmetic on \epsilon ...

(2) I did not use Sohrab's hint ... and that concerns me ... but I am also interested in how Bernoulli's Inequality is used in this proof ...
[Edit. I wrote this before seeing Evgeny's comment above. You should probably look at both comments in parallel.]

I think you are right. There is no need to use Bernoulli for (1). Your argument is sort of correct, but you could shorten it (and perhaps clarify it) a bit like this:

Given $\varepsilon>0$, choose $N> \dfrac 1{a\varepsilon}$. Then $\dfrac 1{Na} < \varepsilon$, and $$n\geqslant N \Longrightarrow \frac1{1+na} <\frac1{na} \leqslant \frac1{Na} < \varepsilon.$$

It often happens in this sort of analysis that you need to tackle a problem by working backwards from the result (as you did in this case). But you then need to re-write the argument so as to lead forwards to the result.

For part (2) of this exercise you surely will want to use Bernoulli. I would do it like this:

Given $0<b<1$, let $a = \dfrac1b-1$. Then $a>0$, $b = \dfrac1{1+a}$, and $$b^n = \frac1{(1+a)^n} \leqslant \frac1{1+na}$$ by Bernoulli's inequality. But $\dfrac1{1+na} \to0$ as $n\to\infty$ by part (1), and it follows that $b^n\to0$.
 
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Evgeny.Makarov said:
To produce large left and right delimiters that correspond to the size of the formula inside, write \left before the left delimiter and \right before the right one, e.g., \left|\frac{1}{1+na }-0\right| to produce \(\displaystyle \left|\frac{1}{1+na }-0\right|\) (ideally it should be \left\lvert\frac{1}{1+na }-0\right\rvert).

The previous line said \(\displaystyle \left|\frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } - 0\right| = \frac{ 1 }{ 1 + na } \lt \frac{ 1 }{ na }\). Implicitly, it is preceded by the universal quantifier $\forall n$, and the scope of this quantifiers ends at the end of the formula. This means that using $n$ is fine inside the formula, but outside $n$ is undefined. So saying "let $1/na<\epsilon$ produces an error message "$n$ is undefined" and a buzz

after which the proof checking stops.

In fact, it is not a good idea to say things like "let $E$ equal ..." or "let $E$ be less than $\epsilon$" where $E$ is an expression and not an individual variable. What if it is impossible to satisfy this formula due to the shape of $E$? For example, it makes no sense to say "Let $1/(1+x^2)>2$" for a real $x$.

I would say, "Fix an arbitrary $\epsilon>0$. Then there exists an $n$ such that $1/na<\epsilon$".

By the way, strictly speaking it is also not good to write, "$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{1}{1+na}=0$ where $n\in\mathbb{N}$" because $\lim_{n\to\infty}$ is a variable-binding construction. It introduces a local variable $n$ that can be used only inside the expression that follows $\lim$ and is not defined outside of it. Other examples of variable-binding constructions are $\sum_{n=1}^\infty$ and $\int_0^1\dots\,dx$. One cannot say, "Consider $\sum_{n=1}^\infty 1/n^2$ where $n$ is even" or "$\int_0^1 x^2\,dx=1/3$ for $x=1/2$". In this example, $n\in\mathbb{N}$ is probably not necessary since $n$ is usually assumed to denote natural (rather than real) numbers (this reminds the implicit variable type convention in Fortran). But if it is not clear, one could say that $n$ ranges over natural numbers: this implies that $n$ is a placeholder rather than a fixed value.

Should be: "Let \(\displaystyle \epsilon^* = a \epsilon\) so that \(\displaystyle \epsilon = \frac{\epsilon^*}{a}\)". This is because $\epsilon$ is already fixed and one cannot redefine it with "Let $\epsilon=\ldots$" (and it reads like a definition of $\epsilon$ at first glance rather than a definition of $\epsilon^*$, which it is).

This implication is in general false, for example, for $a=1$.

Hi Evgeny ...

Well! Thank you for all the guidance and support ... not only with the logic of proofs ... but also with Latex ...

I appreciate your support ... might even get me to the point of understanding analysis ... :)

Peter

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Opalg said:
[Edit. I wrote this before seeing Evgeny's comment above. You should probably look at both comments in parallel.]

I think you are right. There is no need to use Bernoulli for (1). Your argument is sort of correct, but you could shorten it (and perhaps clarify it) a bit like this:

Given $\varepsilon>0$, choose $N> \dfrac 1{a\varepsilon}$. Then $\dfrac 1{Na} < \varepsilon$, and $$n\geqslant N \Longrightarrow \frac1{1+na} <\frac1{na} \leqslant \frac1{Na} < \varepsilon.$$

It often happens in this sort of analysis that you need to tackle a problem by working backwards from the result (as you did in this case). But you then need to re-write the argument so as to lead forwards to the result.

For part (2) of this exercise you surely will want to use Bernoulli. I would do it like this:

Given $0<b<1$, let $a = \dfrac1b-1$. Then $a>0$, $b = \dfrac1{1+a}$, and $$b^n = \frac1{(1+a)^n} \leqslant \frac1{1+na}$$ by Bernoulli's inequality. But $\dfrac1{1+na} \to0$ as $n\to\infty$ by part (1), and it follows that $b^n\to0$.

Thanks Opalg ... appreciate the help ...

Great to see a solution that stands up to scrutiny ...

Peter
 
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