Linear Acceleration of a Rigid Object with Attached Disks and Tension on Cord

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The problem involves determining the linear acceleration of a rigid object with two attached disks, considering the tension in a cord. The context is within the realm of dynamics, specifically focusing on rotational motion and the moment of inertia.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between tension, torque, and moment of inertia, with one participant attempting to derive an expression for linear acceleration. Questions arise regarding the assumptions made about the moment of inertia and the point of rotation for the disks.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the moment of inertia in relation to the center of the disks versus their edge. Some guidance has been provided regarding the correct point of rotation, and there is acknowledgment of misunderstandings in the original poster's reasoning.

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Participants note the original poster's inexperience with rigid body dynamics, which may influence their understanding of the problem. There is also a focus on the assumptions regarding the instantaneous point of rotation and its effect on the calculations.

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Homework Statement



The object of the figure below has 2 disks attached on both sides through and axel of negligible mass. Both disks of mass M. I need to find the linear acceleration of this object knowing there exists a tension T on the cord.
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Homework Equations

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T=αI

The Attempt at a Solution

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First we know that :
τ=αI ⇒
T(R-r)=I(a/R)⇒
T(R-r)=(2(MR^2)/2)(a/R)⇒
T(R-r)=MRa⇒
a=(T(R-r))/(MR)

But the solution of the exercise is : a=(T(R-r))/(3MR)

What am I doing wrong?
 

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Nicolas Gallardo said:
I(a/R)⇒
T(R-r)=(2(MR^2)/2)(a/R)
You are assuming that the moment of inertia relative to a point on the edge of a disk is the same as that relative to its centre. This is not true.
 
Orodruin said:
You are assuming that the moment of inertia relative to a point on the edge of a disk is the same as that relative to its centre. This is not true.
But how would the moment of inertia change? Both of the disks are rotating with respect to the center axis...
 
Nicolas Gallardo said:
Both of the disks are rotating with respect to the center axis...
No they are not, the instantaneous point of rotation is the contact point with the ground ... and you certainly are not computing the torsion relative to the central axis.
 
Orodruin said:
No they are not, the instantaneous point of rotation is the contact point with the ground ... and you certainly are not computing the torsion relative to the central axis.
Yes! You are right! How could I be so dumb. I am sorry I am new with rigids body dinamics. Thank you for your help.
 

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