Linear Acceleration of a turntable

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The problem involves determining the linear acceleration of a point on the rim of a turntable with a specified diameter and rotational speed. The subject area pertains to circular motion and centripetal acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various methods to calculate linear speed and centripetal acceleration, including conversions between revolutions per minute and radians per second. Some question the correctness of their calculations and the formulas used, while others suggest alternative approaches.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing different formulas and calculations for centripetal acceleration. Some express uncertainty about their results and seek confirmation, while others offer guidance on proper conversions and the importance of using the correct radius.

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There are mentions of potential confusion regarding the use of diameter versus radius in calculations, as well as the need for clarity in labeling equations. Participants also note the variability in multiple-choice answers provided by the professor.

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Problem:
What is the linear acceleration of a point on the rim of a 36 cm diameter turntable which is turning at 33 rev/min?

My Work:
T = \frac{2 \pi r}{v}; v = \frac{2 \pi r}{T}

a_{r} = \frac{v^{2}}{r}

\frac{33 rev}{min} \times \frac{1 min}{60 sec} = \frac{.55 rev}{sec}

\frac{2 \pi .36 m}{\frac{.55 rev}{sec}} = 4.1126 \frac{m}{sec}

\frac{(4.1126\frac{m}{sec})^{2}}{.36 m} = 46.9826 \frac{m}{sec^{2}}

Is my work correct? The final answer is suppose to be in \frac{m}{sec^{2}}. The reason I ask is that the multiple choice answer that is nearest to my calculated answer is 46.3 \frac{m}{sec^{2}}. My professor admits that the exactness can be off a few times for the possible choices.
 
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blue5t1053 said:
\frac{33 rev}{min} \times \frac{1 min}{60 sec} = \frac{.55 rev}{sec}

\frac{2 \pi .36 m}{\frac{.55 rev}{sec}} = 4.1126 \frac{m}{sec}
To convert the angular speed from rev/s to radians/s, multiply by 2\pi. To go from angular speed in radians/sec to linear speed, use v = \omega r.

You can also use a different formula for centripetal acceleration:

a_{r} = \frac{v^{2}}{r} = \omega^2 r
 
Hi blue! :smile:

Definitely use Doc Al's formula:

a_{r} = \frac{v^{2}}{r} = \omega^2 r

And even more important:
:redface: r = diameter/2 :redface:
 
Doc Al said:
To convert the angular speed from rev/s to radians/s, multiply by 2\pi. To go from angular speed in radians/sec to linear speed, use v = \omega r.

You can also use a different formula for centripetal acceleration:

a_{r} = \frac{v^{2}}{r} = \omega^2 r

2 \times \pi \times \frac{.55 rev}{sec} = 3.45575 \frac{rad}{sec}

\frac{3.45575 \frac{rad}{sec}}{.36 m} = 9.59931\frac{m}{sec}

(9.59931 \frac{m}{sec})^{2} \times .36 m = 33.1728 \frac{m}{sec^{2}}

Is this correct?
 
Oh my, I forgot about radius, haha. I was too concerned with the conversion to meters from centimeters!
 
blue5t1053 said:
\frac{3.45575 \frac{rad}{sec}}{.36 m} = 9.59931\frac{m}{sec}
Multiply (not divide) by the radius (not the diameter) to find the linear speed.

(9.59931 \frac{m}{sec})^{2} \times .36 m = 33.1728 \frac{m}{sec^{2}}
When using linear speed to find the radial acceleration, divide by the radius. If you use my alternate formula and angular speed (in rad/s, not m/s), then you can multiply by the radius. Don't mix up the two versions of the formula for radial acceleration.
 
2 \times \pi \times \frac{.55 rev}{sec} = 3.45575 \frac{rad}{sec}

3.45575 \frac{rad}{sec} \times .18 m = .622035 \frac{m}{sec}

\frac{(.622035 \frac{m}{sec})^{2}}{.18 m} = 2.1496 \frac{m}{sec^{2}}

Thank you!
 
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Hi blue! :smile:

General tip: put \omega (or whatever) at the beginning of your lines, so you remember what each line is.

Your first line should begin \omega\,=.

Your second line should begin \omega^2r\,=.

But because you're trying to save words, you're getting completely mixed up, and even in this post you've only got \omega r. :cry:
 
blue5t1053 said:
2 \times \pi \times \frac{.55 rev}{sec} = 3.45575 \frac{rad}{sec}

3.45575 \frac{rad}{sec} \times .18 m = .622035 \frac{m}{sec}

\frac{(.622035 \frac{m}{sec})^{2}}{.18 m} = 2.1496 \frac{m}{sec^{2}}

Thank you!
Looks good. (But you would be wise to follow tiny-tim's advice about labeling your equations.)
 

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