Linearly Independent Sets in Abelian Groups

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The discussion centers on the concept of linear independence in abelian groups, specifically focusing on the conditions under which a subset \(X\) is considered linearly independent. A set \(X\) is linearly independent if every nonzero element of the subgroup \(\langle X \rangle\) can be uniquely expressed as a linear combination of distinct elements from \(X\). The participants analyze the implications of this definition, addressing potential errors in reasoning regarding the uniqueness of representations and the assumption of infinite order for elements. The conclusion emphasizes that a linearly independent set cannot include the identity element or cyclic elements.

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Homework Statement


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##X## is linearly independent if and only if every nonzero element of the subgroup ##\langle X \rangle## may be written uniquely in the form ##n_1 x_1 + ... n_k x_k## (##n_i \in \Bbb{Z} \setminus \{0\}##, and ##x_1,...,x_k \in X## are distinct).

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A subset ##X## of an abelian group ##F## is said to be linearly independent if ##n_1 x_1 + ... + n_k x_k## always implies ##n_i = 0## for every ##i## (where ##n_i \in \Bbb{Z}## and ##x_1,...,x_k## are distinct elements in ##X##.

The Attempt at a Solution



I will focus on the ##\impliedby## direction. Here is a solution I found online which I feel is erroneous:

"Given ##\sum n_i x_i = \sum m_i x_i##, we get ##\sum (n_i - m_i)x_i = 0## If every element of ##\langle X \rangle## is the unique linearly combination of elements from ##X##, then to begin with we know ##n_i = m_i## for each ##i \in I## Since ##0 = \sum 0x_i##, it follows any linear combination ##\sum n_i x_i = 0## forces ##n_i = 0## for all ##i \in I##; therefore, ##X## is linearly independent. "

This seems wrong. First, they are assuming that *every* element in ##\langle X \rangle##, including the identity ##0##, can be uniquely written as certain combination of elements in ##X##; but this is not what the problem statement says. Second, it doesn't seem that we can infer that ##n_i = 0## for every ##i## from ##\sum n_i x_i = \sum 0 x_i##, since ##0## can (possibly) be written in a variety of ways and we are *assuming* that ##\sum n_i x_i## is zero.

My thought was to do something like the following. Suppose every ##x \in \langle X \rangle \setminus \{0\}## can be uniquely represented in the manner already mentioned. Let ##x_1,...,x_n## be distinct, nonzero elements in ##X##, and suppose ##k_1 x_1 + ... + k_n x_n = 0##. If ##k_n x_n \neq 0##, then ##k_1 x_1 + ... k_{n-1} x_{n-1} = 0x_1 + ... 0x_{n-1} -k_n x_n##. If the RHS is zero, then we are done. If not, then we have two different representations of the same element, unless ##n_i = 0## for every ##i##. Now, if ##k_n x_n = 0##, then choose the next nonzero element.

This seems incorrect, too, and, as you may have noticed, I am implicitly assuming that every element has infinite order. What's going on? How do we prove the statement?
 
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Regarding an implicit assumption that all elements have infinite order: I don't know exactly how the vector space concept of 'linearly independent' is applied to abelian groups, but if it is applied with exactly the same definition as for vector spaces then a linearly independent set cannot contain any cyclic elements. So the implicit assumption is fine. I am not sure it's needed though.

Let's state, for definiteness, the presumed definition of LI for abelian groups. A set X of elements of an abelian group G is LI iff for any finite subset ##\{x_1,...,x_n\}## of X and set of integers ##\{k_1,...,k_n\}## such that ##\sum_{j=1}^n k_jx_j=0## it must be the case that all ##k_i## are zero. Note that that immediately implies that X does not contain zero or any cyclic elements.

Now assume that there exist ##\{x_1,...,x_n\}## of X and integers ##\{k_1,...,k_n\}## such that ##\sum_{j=1}^n k_ix_i=0##. Arbitrarily choose ##j\in\{1,...,n\}##. Then we can write:
$$-k_jx_j = \sum_{\substack{l=1\\l\neq j}}^n k_lx_l$$

Do you think you can take it from there?
 
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