Liquid dishwashing detergents, not soap

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The discussion centers around the irritation caused by the term "Dawn Dish Soap," highlighting that Dawn and similar products are technically detergents, not soaps, as they contain no actual soap ingredients. Participants debate the importance of this distinction, with some arguing that it matters in marketing and product labeling, while others feel it's a trivial concern for the general public. The conversation touches on broader themes of language evolution, the flexibility of terms in common usage, and the implications of accurate terminology in product descriptions. The distinction between soap and detergent is emphasized as significant in specific contexts, particularly for those knowledgeable in chemistry, while acknowledging that most consumers may not see it that way. The dialogue also reflects on how language and definitions evolve over time, often leading to misunderstandings or misuses of terms in everyday conversation.
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DaveE said:
I'll propose a "Don Quixote Award" for people that excel in trying to control how language evolves and its common usage. Go for it! Fix language! Fight the good fight! Unfortunately I gave up long ago. Being weak of character, I can't help. I think "irregardless" was my Waterloo.
Communication is a two way street. Those busy changing it are just as "trying to control it" as those busy not changing it.

How many does it take?
If I start asserting that "red is blue" how many do I have to get behind me before you can't tell me I'm wrong anymore? :wink:


I'm having a heated discussion over on another forum about the uses of the word "theory".

A lot of people prefer to think of a theory as just some ideas some scientists like, and that, say, the Atomic Theory of Matter is "just a theory" and that evolution is "just a theory", and so might as likely be wrong as right. We all OK with that "change"?
 
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Don't get confused and do this.
 
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JT Smith said:
Of course there are always those who resist change. They eventually die.
And so does everyone else.
 
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symbolipoint said:
And so does everyone else.

Of course but the point is that the objections of a minority die along with the people.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
If I start asserting that "red is blue" how many do I have to get behind me before you can't tell me I'm wrong anymore? :wink:

That's not a good example. Red is already blue provided you achieve an appropriate relative velocity.

But in general I think the answer is: Enough so that it's adopted by the dictionaries.
 
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JT Smith said:
Red is already blue provided you achieve an appropriate relative velocity
Towards us yes. A thread is probably on its last legs if grammar takes over.
 
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pinball1970 said:
Towards us yes. A thread is probably on its last legs if grammar takes over.
That;s not grammar! That's diction! Word choice! As in DICTIONary! It makes me so mad when people do thia!
:H:H:H

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(Time to close?)
 
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JT Smith said:
Of course but the point is that the objections of a minority die along with the people.
When exactly did it become the "minority"?
 
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DaveC426913 said:
When exactly did it become the "minority"?

When the number fell below 50%.
 
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