Liquid dishwashing detergents, not soap

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The discussion centers on the distinction between liquid dishwashing detergents, specifically Dawn, and traditional soaps. Participants emphasize that Dawn and similar products contain no soap, but rather surfactants and other chemical agents. The conversation highlights the importance of accurate terminology in marketing and consumer understanding, particularly in the context of product labeling and safety. The debate also touches on the evolution of language and how common usage can diverge from technical definitions.

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  • Understanding of surfactants and their role in cleaning products.
  • Familiarity with the chemical composition of detergents versus soaps.
  • Knowledge of product labeling regulations, particularly from the FDA.
  • Awareness of the impact of marketing language on consumer perception.
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  • Research the chemical properties of surfactants used in cleaning products.
  • Learn about the FDA regulations regarding product labeling and definitions.
  • Explore the differences between soaps and detergents in detail.
  • Investigate consumer perceptions of product terminology in marketing.
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This discussion is beneficial for product developers, marketers in the cleaning industry, chemical engineers, and consumers interested in understanding the ingredients and claims of household cleaning products.

  • #31
DaveE said:
I'll propose a "Don Quixote Award" for people that excel in trying to control how language evolves and its common usage. Go for it! Fix language! Fight the good fight! Unfortunately I gave up long ago. Being weak of character, I can't help. I think "irregardless" was my Waterloo.
Communication is a two way street. Those busy changing it are just as "trying to control it" as those busy not changing it.

How many does it take?
If I start asserting that "red is blue" how many do I have to get behind me before you can't tell me I'm wrong anymore? :wink:


I'm having a heated discussion over on another forum about the uses of the word "theory".

A lot of people prefer to think of a theory as just some ideas some scientists like, and that, say, the Atomic Theory of Matter is "just a theory" and that evolution is "just a theory", and so might as likely be wrong as right. We all OK with that "change"?
 
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Don't get confused and do this.
 
  • #33
JT Smith said:
Of course there are always those who resist change. They eventually die.
And so does everyone else.
 
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Reaction: I am not sure if I "Like" it, or is it "Informative". I gave a "Like".
 
  • #35
symbolipoint said:
And so does everyone else.

Of course but the point is that the objections of a minority die along with the people.
 
  • #36
DaveC426913 said:
If I start asserting that "red is blue" how many do I have to get behind me before you can't tell me I'm wrong anymore? :wink:

That's not a good example. Red is already blue provided you achieve an appropriate relative velocity.

But in general I think the answer is: Enough so that it's adopted by the dictionaries.
 
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JT Smith said:
Red is already blue provided you achieve an appropriate relative velocity
Towards us yes. A thread is probably on its last legs if grammar takes over.
 
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pinball1970 said:
Towards us yes. A thread is probably on its last legs if grammar takes over.
That;s not grammar! That's diction! Word choice! As in DICTIONary! It makes me so mad when people do thia!
:H:H:H

:wink:

(Time to close?)
 
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JT Smith said:
Of course but the point is that the objections of a minority die along with the people.
When exactly did it become the "minority"?
 
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DaveC426913 said:
When exactly did it become the "minority"?

When the number fell below 50%.
 
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