Livni (Kadima) vs Netanyahu (Likud)

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The discussion revolves around the recent Israeli elections, focusing on the contest between Tzipi Livni of the Kadima Party and Benjamin Netanyahu of the Likud Party. Participants explore the implications of the election results, the political landscape, and potential future scenarios regarding governance and peace negotiations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the election results are too close to call, with Livni's Kadima Party slightly ahead of Netanyahu's Likud Party.
  • There are claims from both Livni and Netanyahu of victory, leading to questions about how the political situation will be resolved.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for violence or political instability, with references to Netanyahu's hardline stance on Hamas and the implications for peace efforts.
  • Some participants comment on Livni's political shift to the right, suggesting it may have affected her support among voters.
  • Humorous remarks are made regarding Livni's name and persona, reflecting a lighter tone amidst the serious political discussion.
  • The inconclusive nature of the election results is highlighted, with both candidates lacking a clear majority and the likelihood of complex coalition negotiations ahead.

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Participants express a range of views on the election outcomes and the future political landscape. There is no consensus on how the situation will unfold, with multiple competing perspectives on the implications of the results.

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The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the formation of a government and the potential for coalition dynamics, as well as the impact of hardline parties on the political process.

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Israel's Livni: Today the people chose Kadima
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090210/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_election
JERUSALEM (AP) — A partial count of votes shows Israel's election is too close to call.

Israel's Central Elections Committee said Wednesday that with 27 percent of votes counted, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni's centrist Kadima Party is narrowly in first place with 27 of parliament's 120 seats.

Benjamin Netanyahu's hawkish Likud Party was right behind with 26.
She is currently acting-PM, but with this election, she would become PM.

It's a close election, although Livni is claiming victory. But so does Netanyahu.

Netanyahu, Livni declare win in Israeli election
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090210/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_election_31


Five facts about Tzipi Livni
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090210/tpl-uk-israel-election-livni-factbox-43a8d4f.html

Netanyahu and Lieberman are too much like Bush. They work to make enemies and trouble.
 
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Astronuc said:
It's a close election, although Livni is claiming victory. But so does Netanyahu.
Do they settle it with tanks?
 
mgb_phys said:
Do they settle it with tanks?
Or perhaps with political assassination? Netanyahu has promised continued war until Hamas is destroyed, which is very popular with the right-wing, including the "settlers" that Livni has publicly identified as major obstructions to Israeli-Palestine peace. If she wins out, she'd better not make public appearances.
 
I like the idea of a prime minister named "Zippy". Yow!
 
Livni has been moving farther and farther to the right over the last few months. I imagine that helped cut into some of BN's demographic.

Like playing The Price is Right with one other player, it doesn't help to bid any lower than $1 below your opponent.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
I like the idea of a prime minister named "Zippy". Yow!

That's where I come out on it too.

Tzipi Livni what a great name.
 
LowlyPion said:
That's where I come out on it too.

Tzipi Livni what a great name.

...um, I donno...I think of Tzipi the Pin-Headed Prime Minister...:biggrin:
 
Tzipi: Am I prime minister yet?
 
Apparently neither Livni, nor her chief rival Netanyahu, received a clear majority, so

Inconclusive election puts Israel, peace in limbo
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090211/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_politics

JERUSALEM – Inconclusive election results sent Israel into political limbo Wednesday with both Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and hard-line leader Benjamin Netanyahu claiming victory and leaving the kingmaker role to a rising political hawk with an anti-Arab platform.

Livni's Kadima Party won 28 seats, just one more than Netanyahu's Likud, in Tuesday's election for the 120-member parliament, according to nearly complete results. Both held victory rallies, but without a clear majority neither can govern alone. Hard-line parties won a majority of the votes, meaning that Netanyahu has more natural allies and a better chance of forming a coalition.

The results set the stage for what could be weeks of coalition negotiations. The first meetings began Wednesday, with Netanyahu meeting the head of the ultra-Orthodox Shas faction and Livni meeting Avigdor Lieberman, whose ultranationalist party received 15 seats and emerged as the third-largest force in parliament.

Two of the more likely options would see a hard-line government led by Netanyahu, leaving Livni in the opposition, or some form of accommodation between the two in the form of a centrist coalition in which they would share power.

Whatever government is forged, it is unlikely to move quickly toward peace talks with the Palestinians and instead could find itself on a collision course with President Barack Obama, who has said he's making a Mideast peace deal a priority.

. . . .
 
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