Local Continuity and Restriction

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The discussion revolves around the continuity of a function defined on topological spaces, specifically focusing on the implications of restricting the function to open and closed covers. Participants explore conditions under which continuity can be established and seek examples where these conditions may fail.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that if a function f is continuous on a finite open or closed cover of a topological space, then f is continuous on the entire space.
  • Others highlight that if the cover is infinite and consists of closed sets, the continuity may not hold, prompting a search for counterexamples.
  • One participant suggests that a discontinuous function can serve as a counterexample by using a closed cover consisting of singletons.
  • Another participant questions how to define the continuity of the restriction of f to a singleton set.
  • A subsequent reply proposes a definition for the restriction to a singleton, arguing that it is continuous due to the nature of the set being indiscrete.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of continuity when dealing with infinite closed covers, and while some examples are proposed, no consensus is reached on the validity of these examples or the generality of the claims.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the mathematical nuances regarding the continuity of functions under various conditions, particularly concerning the nature of the covers used.

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Hi,

Let f :X-->Y ; X,Y topological spaces is any map and {Ui: i in I} is a cover for X
so that :

f|_Ui is continuous, i.e., the restriction of f to each Ui is continuous, then:

1) If I is finite , and the {Ui} are all open (all closed) , we can show f is continuous:

taking W open in Y, f^-1(W)= \/ f^-1(W /\ Ui) = is the union of open sets in X;

each W/\Ui is open, and W/\Ui is contained in Ui.

( where \/ is the union over I ; /\ is intersection over I ); same for V closed in Y.


2) If I is infinite, the argument can break down , i.e., if {Ui } is a closed cover

for X (each Ui is closed) ; f|_Ui is continuous and I is infinite, then this result

fails. Does anyone know of an example of this last?
 
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Bacle said:
Hi,

Let f :X-->Y ; X,Y topological spaces is any map and {Ui: i in I} is a cover for X
so that :

f|_Ui is continuous, i.e., the restriction of f to each Ui is continuous, then:

1) If I is finite , and the {Ui} are all open (all closed) , we can show f is continuous:

taking W open in Y, f^-1(W)= \/ f^-1(W /\ Ui) = is the union of open sets in X;

each W/\Ui is open, and W/\Ui is contained in Ui.

( where \/ is the union over I ; /\ is intersection over I ); same for V closed in Y.


2) If I is infinite, the argument can break down , i.e., if {Ui } is a closed cover

for X (each Ui is closed) ; f|_Ui is continuous and I is infinite, then this result

fails. Does anyone know of an example of this last?

As an example where it fails, take any discontinuous function [itex]f:\mathbb{R}\rightarrow \mathbb{R}[/itex] and consider the closed cover [itex](\{x\})_{x\in \mathbb{R}}[/itex], doesn't that work?
 
Micromass: but how do we then define f|_x to be continuous?
 
Bacle said:
Micromass: but how do we then define f|_x to be continuous?

Just define [itex]f\vert_{\{x\}}:\{x\}\rightarrow \mathbb{R}:x\rightarrow f(x)[/itex]. This is clearly continuous since [itex]\{x\}[/itex] is indiscrete...
 
Right, good point; thanks.
 

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