Lukasiewicz-Slupencki three-valued calculus

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The discussion revolves around the Lukasiewicz-Slupencki three-valued calculus, specifically the expansion of the original three-valued system to include the functor T(.) and its implications for logical consistency. Participants explore the nature of contradictions within this system and the validity of certain axioms and propositions.

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  • One participant notes that Slupencki expanded the three-valued Lukasiewicz calculus L3 to L3S by adding functor T(.) and two axioms, questioning the implications of Tx⇔~Tx as a potential contradiction.
  • Another participant simplifies the question by asking if a consistent many-valued logical system can have propositions where the valuation of a proposition and its negation are the same.
  • A participant argues that Tx is always 1, leading to the conclusion that Tx ⇔ ~Tx is simply 1 ⇔ 1, thus not a contradiction.
  • Another participant introduces a tautology example, suggesting that applying T⇔~T leads to contradictions, raising concerns about the implications for paradoxes like Russell's paradox.
  • One participant asserts that A&~A is not generally a contradiction in three-valued logic, providing an example with the truth value 1, and notes that the suspension of classical logical laws was part of Lukasiewicz's motivation for multivalent logics.
  • Another participant acknowledges their misunderstanding and expresses clarity on the subject after the discussion.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of the axioms and the nature of contradictions in three-valued logic, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

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Participants highlight limitations in understanding the axioms and their implications, as well as the definitions of terms like T and negation within the context of three-valued logic.

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(The "L"'s in the two names should have lines through them, sorry).
Slupencki expanded (in 1936) the three-valued Lukasiewicz calculus L3
to L3S in order to make it functionally complete. He did this by adding functor T(.), where T(x) = 1 for all x in {0,1,2}, and two axioms: Tx⇒~Tx and ~Tx⇒Tx. Since val(x)= val(~x) if val(x) = 1, these axioms would seem OK, but what I don't get is why we cannot say then that Tx⇔~Tx poses an unacceptable contradiction. :(
 
Let me put the question more simply, without reference to a particular system. Can you have a consistent (many-valued) logical system such that there are propositions such that the valuation of the proposition and the valuation of its negation are the same?
 
nomadreid said:
(The "L"'s in the two names should have lines through them, sorry).
Slupencki expanded (in 1936) the three-valued Lukasiewicz calculus L3
to L3S in order to make it functionally complete. He did this by adding functor T(.), where T(x) = 1 for all x in {0,1,2}, and two axioms: Tx⇒~Tx and ~Tx⇒Tx. Since val(x)= val(~x) if val(x) = 1, these axioms would seem OK, but what I don't get is why we cannot say then that Tx⇔~Tx poses an unacceptable contradiction. :(
I'm not seeing where the contradiction is. Tx is always 1, therefore ~Tx is always 1 [by the definition of negation val(~x) = 2-x], therefore Tx ⇔ ~Tx is just 1 ⇔ 1.
 
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Thanks for the reply, TeethWhitener. Start with a tautology, such as T⇔T&T. This becomes (applying T⇔~T) T⇔T&~T. Ditto for getting ~T ⇔T&~T. From T∨~T (and A∨A⇔A), we get T&~T. Contradiction.
Also: If T⇔~T is allowed, then how would one come to the conclusion that Russell's paradox poses a contradiction?
 
First of all, A&~A is not, in general, a contradiction in 3-valued logic. To see this, plug in the truth value 1 for A (from the set {0, 1, 2}). You get val(~A)=1, val(A&~A)=1. Suspension of the laws of non-contradiction and the excluded middle were part of Lukasiewicz's original motivation for exploring multivalent logics. Secondly, T is not a proposition. T(x) is a unary operator that takes any proposition x and assigns it the truth value of 1.
 
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Thanks, TeethWhitener. I plead guilty to both counts. I now am clearer on the subject.
 

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