Madame Wu Experiment: Doubts & Reasoning

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Madame Wu experiment, focusing on the detection of electrons and gamma rays in relation to the polarization of cobalt-60 nuclei and the implications of parity violation in weak interactions. Participants express doubts and seek clarification on the expected outcomes based on the experimental setup and theoretical frameworks.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the reasoning behind the expectation that the polar counter should detect more photons than the equatorial counter, given the polarization of spins in a magnetic field.
  • Another participant asserts that any preference in photon detection is indicative of parity violation.
  • A different participant highlights the importance of the direction of emission in relation to the spin, referencing the V-A structure of weak interactions and expressing confusion over the observed results in the graphs.
  • One participant points out a contradiction in the graphs regarding beta asymmetry, suggesting that the expected outcomes do not align with the experimental data.
  • Another participant notes that the graphs referenced are from a specific textbook, indicating a potential error in the source material regarding the direction of the asymmetry coefficient.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of the experimental results and the implications of the graphs, indicating that multiple competing views remain and the discussion is unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are references to specific graphs and publications that may contain errors or misinterpretations, but these issues remain unverified within the discussion.

Federica
Messages
12
Reaction score
1
Hi all,

I have some doubts regarding the experiment of Madame Wu. I know a strong magnetic field is used to polarise the ##^{60}Co## nuclei, then we have an anthracene scintillator on the top of the sample which will detect the electron produced in the decay: ##^{60}Co \rightarrow ^{60}Ni^{**} + e^{-} + \bar{\nu}_{e}##. Two others scintillators will detect the two gammas produced by the de-excitation of ##^{60}Ni^{**}##, one is set at 90° to the field (the 'equatorial counter') and the other one at 0° ('the polar counter').

Now, since I suppose the spins are parallel to the field, I would expect the polar counter to detect more photons than the equatorial one (as long as we have polarisation), but the opposite happens. And since the anti-neutrino is right-handed, the electron should be left-handed, which means the anthracene detector should detect more electrons when the field is on the downside. But once again, the opposite happens.

Can someone help me to understand what's wrong with my reasoning?
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Aleolomorfo
Physics news on Phys.org
Which direction receives more photons depends on the direction of the magnetic field. Not that it would matter: Any preference is parity violation.
 
Hello everybody!

I join the conversation since I also have some doubts about Wu experiment.

mfb said:
Any preference is parity violation.
Yes, you are right, but if the emission is in the opposite direction of the spin the weak interactions obey V-A structure, otherwise V+A... So, the direction of the emission is important.

From the attached graphs it seems there is a contradiction. Let's consider the graph about the beta asymmetry and the situation "B up" (a).
If the field is upward, the spin is upward. Since V-A structure implies the emission of the electrons opposite to the spin, I would expect to count less frequently than the situation in which the filed in downward (remember that in Wu experiment the scintillator is over the source). But the graph shows the opposite.

Where does my reasoning fail?
 

Attachments

  • Data+from+Madame+Wu’s+experiment.jpg
    Data+from+Madame+Wu’s+experiment.jpg
    38.6 KB · Views: 686
I'm not sure where you got these graphs from because the publication has it in the opposite direction, and it is quite clear:
The sign of the asymmetry coefficient, ##\alpha##, is negative, that is, the emission of beta particles is more favored in the direction opposite to that of the nuclear spin.
 
mfb said:
I'm not sure where you got these graphs from because the publication has it in the opposite direction, and it is quite clear:

Those graphs are taken from "Introduction to Elementary Particle Physics", A. Bettini. Thank you for your prompt reply, it seems there's an error on the book then.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K
Replies
18
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
4K