How Do You Calculate the Magnitude of Acceleration in an Elevator?

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To calculate the magnitude of acceleration in an elevator moving from the first to the sixth floor, the problem involves three phases: initial acceleration for time T, constant velocity for 4T, and final deceleration for time T. The total distance h can be expressed in terms of the acceleration a and time intervals T using motion equations. The correct formula for acceleration is derived by summing the distances traveled during each phase and setting it equal to h, leading to the equation a = h/(6T^2). The interpretation of "first floor" does not affect the calculations since the total distance remains the same regardless of the terminology used.
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Homework Statement



A person is standing on an elevator initially at rest at the first floor of a high building. The elevator then begins to ascend to the sixth floor, which is a known distance h above the starting point. A plot of the acceleration as a function of time is shown in the figure above. The elevator undergoes an unknown constant acceleration of magnitude a for a given time interval T. Then the elevator moves at a constant velocity for a time interval 4T. Finally the elevator brakes with an acceleration of magnitude a, (the same magnitude as the initial acceleration), for a time interval T until stopping at the sixth floor.

Find a,the magnitude of the acceleration. Express your answers in terms of h and T as needed.

Homework Equations


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I thought this equation is the right one:
d=1/2*a*t^2
initial velocity is O

The Attempt at a Solution


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The question is somewhat obscure to me. Should I find an average magnitude?

a=h/(36*T^2) as h - six floors and there are 6 T - time intervals

or simply - the lift speeding up during T:

a=h/(6*T^2)

It looks simple but I am confused.
 
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Poetria said:

Homework Statement



A person is standing on an elevator initially at rest at the first floor of a high building. The elevator then begins to ascend to the sixth floor, which is a known distance h above the starting point. A plot of the acceleration as a function of time is shown in the figure above. The elevator undergoes an unknown constant acceleration of magnitude a for a given time interval T. Then the elevator moves at a constant velocity for a time interval 4T. Finally the elevator brakes with an acceleration of magnitude a, (the same magnitude as the initial acceleration), for a time interval T until stopping at the sixth floor.

Find a,the magnitude of the acceleration. Express your answers in terms of h and T as needed.

Homework Equations


[/B]
I thought this equation is the right one:
d=1/2*a*t^2
initial velocity is O

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
The question is somewhat obscure to me. Should I find an average magnitude?

a=h/(36*T^2) as h - six floors and there are 6 T - time intervals

or simply - the lift speeding up during T:

a=h/(6*T^2)

It looks simple but I am confused.

Is the "first floor" the American/Canadian version, meaning "ground floor", or is it the British version, meaning what a Canadian or American would call the second floor (with Brits calling the ground floor exactly that---the ground floor---floor zero)?
 
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Use the standard equations of motion under constant acceleration to write formulas for each of:
  1. speed at end of initial acceleration
  2. distance traveled during initial acceleration
  3. distance traveled in middle period of constant speed
  4. distance traveled during final deceleration
Each of those will be a formula that uses only a and T. Some of the formulas may need to use answers from earlier steps.
Then, setting the sum of 2 to 4 equal to h, you get an equation in which the only unknown is a. Then solve the equation.
 
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andrewkirk said:
Use the standard equations of motion under constant acceleration to write formulas for each of:
  1. speed at end of initial acceleration
  2. distance traveled during initial acceleration
  3. distance traveled in middle period of constant speed
  4. distance traveled during final deceleration
Each of those will be a formula that uses only a and T. Some of the formulas may need to use answers from earlier steps.
Then, setting the sum of 2 to 4 equal to h, you get an equation in which the only unknown is a. Then solve the equation.

Great, I got it right at last. Many thanks. Dividing h by 6 was a bad idea. :(

Well, I have learned British English but this can be American. :)
 
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Well, I have learned British English but this can be American. :)
Actually it doesn't matter which it is, since the distance traveled is that between the first and sixth floors, which is the same (assuming all floors have the same height) regardless of whether 'first floor' means ground floor (American interpretation) or the floor above the ground floor (British interpretation). Either way it's five floors.

But then since h - the total distance traveled in metres - is taken as known, the number of floors traveled is irrelevant too.
 
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The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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