Maintaining Orbit of Two Planets Around Sun: Is it Possible?

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The discussion centers on the theoretical possibility of maintaining the orbit of two planets around the Sun, using the barycenter concept as a pivotal point. Participants liken this scenario to the Earth-Moon and Pluto-Charon systems, suggesting that similar-sized planets could potentially balance each other's gravitational effects. The conversation emphasizes the importance of positioning and the influence of the Sun's gravity on such a dual-planet system. Ultimately, the feasibility of this arrangement hinges on the presence of a balancing body to counteract solar gravitational pull.

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for ease of explanation, imagine that the barycenter of two planets is the center of a wheel and that the planets revolve around the edges of the tire. the center of the tire (barycenter) is in orbit around sun, as if the wheel is rolling around in its orbit. my question is, is this possible? of course every time one planet would swing closer to the sun it would be pulled farther out of orbit, but would another large planetary object (perhaps in an outer ring) counter-balance the sun`s gravity? what possible positioning of these planets might help them maintain their orbit`s integrity? thanks
 
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Isn't your 'two planet' system equivalent to the Earth-Moon system?


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Or at least Pluto-Charon. (Pluto is still a planet in my book!)
 


not exactly earth/moon, definitely more pluto/charon, but actually more something like this:

1 = first twin planet
2 = second twin planet
b = barycenter of the twin planets
(the badly typed hexagon [the wagon wheel i was describing] that the planets rest on is their orbit)


........._____ 1____...........
........../....\...........
........./......\..........
-->-->-->-->-->-->-->-->-->-/->-->-b-->-->-\->-->-->-->(orbit around the sun)-->
.........\...../.........
.........\....../.........
..........\____2_____/...........

it might have been helpful to mention that the planets would be relatively similar in size. so yea, could this be made possible? or would the sun's gravity pull the planets' out of orbit. and if so, perhaps a balancing body opposite the sun?
 


Isn't this pretty much describing Pluto and Charon? (As Vanadium 50 had said.) Even if people don't consider Pluto a plant, it's still the same thing as what you're talking about. Charon is only just over half Pluto's size (by size I assume you do mean diameter, not mass), but if it works for this pair, I'm sure it could for your described situation.
 


ahhhh roight. i guess i could have looked a little further into it before resorting to a forum. thank you!
 


Vanadium 50 said:
Or at least Pluto-Charon. (Pluto is still a planet in my book!)

Hehehe... there is a show on NPR called "Says You!" in which one of the bluffing words was "Scruto". In fact it's a trapdoor made of whale bone, but in the midst of flailing for an answer, one of the panelists said, "It's what happened to Pluto".

If Titan is a moon, Pluto is a planet... what is the deal with people getting so antsy over naming conventions anyway? This, in a field where symbolic overload is de rigueur.
 

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