Mapping Function for (0,1) into Open Unit Square

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The discussion revolves around finding a function that maps the open interval (0,1) into the open unit square S, defined as S={(x,y):0

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  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to define a mapping from (0,1) to points in the square, while others clarify that the mapping should be from a single number to a pair of coordinates. There are discussions about whether the mapping needs to be onto and the implications of different proposed functions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning each other's interpretations and clarifying the requirements of the mapping. Some have suggested potential forms for the mapping function, while others are still grappling with the correct approach.

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There appears to be confusion regarding the dimensionality of the mapping, as participants note that the domain is one-dimensional while the co-domain is two-dimensional. This distinction is central to the problem being discussed.

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Homework Statement


Consider the open interval (0,1), and let's S be the set of points in the open unit square
that is, S={(x,y):0<x,y<1}.
Find a function that maps (0,1) into S. but not necessarily onto.

The Attempt at a Solution


so I can describe any point in my square with x and y coordinates like (x,y)
so for all of my points ill just take so I will map the coordinate (x,y) to 2^x3^y .
so now each coordinate goes to one real. and (0,1) can be mapped to the whole real line so I shouldn't have problems with some of the numbers being bigger than one.
But I guess I could just map the coordinates to 2^{-x}3^{-y}
and I think this function might be onto.
 
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You appear to be completely misunderstanding the problem. There is NO "(x, y)". The problem asks you to map (0, 1), a subset of R, onto the square in R2.

You need to find a function that maps a single number, x, to a pair, (a, b).
 
HallsofIvy said:
You appear to be completely misunderstanding the problem. There is NO "(x, y)". The problem asks you to map (0, 1), a subset of R, onto the square in R2.

You need to find a function that maps a single number, x, to a pair, (a, b).

Not even that. You just need to map into the square. It doesn't even need to be surjective.
 
Yes, thanks.
 
ok , so I just need to map the points from (0,1) into the square, but not nessicarily all the points in the sqaure to the line segmenet. but does my original statement work.
 
No, because there is NO "(x, y)" to begin with. If x is a number in (0, 1), what does x map to?
 
I don't understand what you mean. why can't you map x to x on the line.
what do you mean there is no (x,y) to begin with.
thanks for the help by the way.
 
the domain of your map (function) is 1-dimensional (a line segment, minus its endpoints).

the co-domain (set that contains the range) is 2-dimensional (interior of a square).

your map should look something like this:

f(t) = (x(t),y(t))

i can think of a possible map that has a fairly simple form for both x(t) and y(t).
 
so could I just map my my line into the square using f(t)=(x,1/2)
where x varies and y is always at 1/2
 
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that's closer, but how is "x" determined...?
 
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how about y=x
 

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