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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution to a second-order homogeneous linear recurrence relation and determining the necessary and sufficient conditions for the boundedness of the sequence defined by the recurrence. The conversation includes aspects of mathematical reasoning and verification of calculations related to the auxiliary equation.

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  • One participant presents the recurrence relation and seeks help in proving the boundedness of the sequence.
  • Another participant derives the general solution using the auxiliary equation and states that the sequence is bounded if a specific condition on the constants is met.
  • A participant questions the roots of the auxiliary equation, suggesting an alternative pair of roots and seeks clarification on whether there was a calculation mistake.
  • A later reply confirms the correct roots of the auxiliary equation and acknowledges the initial mistake in the calculation.

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There is disagreement regarding the roots of the auxiliary equation, with one participant asserting a different pair of roots than initially presented. The discussion remains unresolved as participants clarify their calculations without reaching a consensus on the roots.

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The discussion highlights potential calculation errors and the importance of verifying mathematical steps, but does not resolve the discrepancies in the roots of the auxiliary equation.

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Question - Find the general solution to the 2nd order homogeneous linear recurrence below, and give a necessary and sufficient condition on u0 and u1 such that the sequence defined by the recurrence is bounded.

2*x subscript(n + 1) + 3*x subscript (n) -2*x subscript (n-1) = 0

I've found the general solution using the auxiliary equation, but I'm not sure how to prove it's bounded. I know that if a sequence converges, it means that it is bounded, but I have no clue how to show whether a recurrent sequence converges. Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Here is a link to the question:

2nd order homogeneous linear recurrence? - Yahoo! Answers

I have posted a link there to this topic so the OP can find my response.
 
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Hello Mark,

From $2\lambda^2+3\lambda-2=0$ we get $\lambda=\dfrac{1}{3}$ and $\lambda=-\dfrac{4}{3}$ so, the general solution is $$x_n=C_1\left( \dfrac{1}{3}\right)^n+C_2\left(\dfrac{-4}{3}\right)^n$$ As $|1/3|<1$ $C_1(1/3)^n\to 0$ that is, $C_1(1/3)^n$ is bounded. Taking into account that $|-4/3|>1$, the sequence $C_2(-4/3)^n$ is bounded if and only if $C_2=0$, as a consequence $x_n$ is bounded if and only if $C_2=0$. Now, for $n=0$ and for $n=1$ $$\left \{ \begin{matrix} x_0=C_1+C_2\\x_1=\dfrac{C_1}{3}-\dfrac{4C_2}{3}\end{matrix}\right.$$

But $C_2=0$ if and only if $x_0=3x_1$ (necessary and sufficient condition on $x_0$ and $x_1$ such that the sequence defined by the recurrence relation is bounded).

Edit: See the following posts.
 
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Thank you So much for your reply, I've perfectly understood how to solve it now! Just one quick question though, shouldn't the roots of the auxiliary equation be -2 and 1/2? It's not a big deal as the concept remains the same, but I just wanted to confirm whether it was a calculation mistake on your part or have I solved the auxiliary equation wrong.

Thank you very much once again!
 
You are correct, the characteristic roots are indeed:

$\displaystyle \lambda=-2,\,\frac{1}{2}$
 
TheAvenger said:
Thank you So much for your reply, I've perfectly understood how to solve it now! Just one quick question though, shouldn't the roots of the auxiliary equation be -2 and 1/2? It's not a big deal as the concept remains the same, but I just wanted to confirm whether it was a calculation mistake on your part or have I solved the auxiliary equation wrong.

Thank you very much once again!

All right, the concept remains the same. Out of curiosity, my mistake: $$\lambda=\dfrac{-3\pm \sqrt{9+16}}{2\cdot \color{red}3}$$ I looked at $3$ instead of $2$!

P.S. Does anyone know about a quadratic equation's tutorial? :)
 

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