Mars Water: The Truth Behind Its Blue Color and Recent Discovery Revealed

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The discussion revolves around the color of water on Mars, particularly in relation to a recently reported discovery of a lake beneath ice. Participants explore the implications of the Martian atmosphere's color on the appearance of water, as well as the effects of light absorption and scattering on water color in general.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the color of water on Earth appears blue due to the reflection of the blue sky, questioning how this might apply to Mars where the sky is red.
  • Others argue that the color of water is primarily determined by the absorption and scattering of light, asserting that the color of the sky has minimal effect on the water's color.
  • One participant points out that the Martian atmosphere appears reddish due to dust and iron oxide, which may influence the color of light reaching the water.
  • A later reply questions whether this filtering effect implies that water on Mars would have a reddish tint.
  • Another participant raises concerns about the validity of the reported lake discovery, asking for confirmation and an English version of the news.
  • One participant notes that since the lake is located a mile underground, it may not reflect the sky's color at all.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the influence of the Martian atmosphere on the color of water, with no consensus reached on whether the water would appear reddish or retain a different color. The validity of the lake discovery remains uncertain, with some skepticism present.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of light absorption and scattering without resolving the complexities of how these factors interact with the Martian environment. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity regarding the reported lake's characteristics and the nature of the news source.

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I guess water in Earth , in big lakes or seas, looks blue because the Earth's sky is blue and the water's surface reflects the sky.

Now if there would be some big lake of water at Mars, how the water surface colour would be? I guess the colour of Mar's sky which is red (right or wrong?)

It is just that the greek version of msn.com posted some news with a lake been discovered in Mars (beneath some sort of ice) and it shows the lake's colour (or the ice's colour) in blue, I guess that colour in the photo is added in post production.

Here is the news link, the text is greek but I suppose you all can see the photo
https://www.msn.com/el-gr/news/tech...καλύφθηκε-στον-άρη/ar-BBLby57?ocid=spartandhp
 
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Your assumption is not correct. The light falling on the water surface consist of all wavelengths, i.e. it is "white light". The reason why deep water in oceans appear blue is because majority of longer wavelengths are absorbed, and mostly blue is scattered and reflected.
 
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lomidrevo said:
Your assumption is not correct. The light falling on the water surface consist of all wavelengths, i.e. it is "white light". The reason why deep water in oceans appear blue is because majority of longer wavelengths are absorbed, and mostly blue is scattered and reflected.
Well your argument seems sort of correct but when you saying that my assumption is not correct, you mean that the colour of the sky has minimal effect on the colour of the water ?

And what is the colour of Martian Sky by the way ?
 
Delta² said:
Well your argument seems sort of correct but when you saying that my assumption is not correct, you mean that the colour of the sky has minimal effect on the colour of the water ?

Yes, that's what it means. The color of water mainly results from direct sunlight (which isn't blue) passing the water before and after it is scattered or reflected to the observer.

Delta² said:
And what is the colour of Martian Sky by the way ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_skies#The_color_of_the_Martian_sky
 
The martian atmosphere appears reddish because it contains a large amount of dust. A popular explanation is this dust has a high iron oxide [rust] concentr, but, this only partially accounts for the reddish hue. It has as much to do with particle size, which selectively affects the color of light that makes it through the atmosphere., and also accounts for how it appears at frequencies other than the visible spectrum.
 
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Given this filtering effect, can we conclude that water on Mars would in fact have a reddish tint, given that most of the light reaching the water is red?
 
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What about the lake on Mars, that nobody cared about in this thread, this is huge discovery!
Is it true or fake news?!
Do you have english version?
 
Deepblu said:
What about the lake on Mars,
It's a mile underground so isn't going to reflect anything.
 
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