Mass Established by Relative Motion: Implications in GR?

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The discussion centers on the concept of mass and its determination through relative motion, questioning whether the process is circular. Participants clarify that mass is defined relative to a standard unit, with gravitational and inertial mass being equivalent. They emphasize that while mass can be measured through gravitational effects, the gravitational constant (G) is less precisely known, complicating mass calculations for celestial bodies. The conversation also touches on the implications of General Relativity and the distinction between rest mass and relativistic mass, indicating that rest mass is considered absolute. Ultimately, the dialogue highlights the complexities of defining mass across different scales and contexts, particularly in relation to quantum mechanics and the Higgs field.
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jaketodd said:
One counter argument I've thought of is: Energy transfer can be timed. However, what is really being measured is the particle that the virtual particle is effecting, not the virtual particle itself.

Counter argument to what?
 
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Drakkith said:
Counter argument to what?

It's a counter argument to virtual particles not being detectable in time.
 
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