Mass of a planet given wavelength of an orbiting craft?

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The problem involves a spacecraft in a circular orbit around a distant planet, emitting a radio signal with a specific wavelength. The observed variation in wavelength and the period of this variation are provided, and the task is to calculate the mass of the planet using principles related to the Doppler effect and orbital mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the Doppler effect to relate the observed wavelength changes to the velocity of the spacecraft. There are attempts to connect the orbital parameters to gravitational forces and centripetal motion. Questions arise regarding the justification for assuming the true wavelength and the correct interpretation of the change in wavelength.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights on the relationships between the various parameters involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculations needed, but there is no explicit consensus on the assumptions being made or the methods to be used.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential assumptions about the true wavelength and the definitions of the change in wavelength. The problem context includes constraints related to the observed data and the nature of the orbital motion.

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Suppose a spacecraft is in a circular orbit about a distant planet. The spacecraft emits a continuous radio signal with a wavelength of 6 m. You observe the signal's wavelength to vary between 5:99969 m and 6:00031 m; the period of variation (i.e., the full period of the signal) is 5 hours. Calculate the mass of the planet. Assume that you are located in the plane of the spacecraft 's orbit. It may help to know that the circumference of a circle with radius a is 2\pia, and to recall that speed equals distance divided by time.

I'm pretty sure I have to use the Doppler effect in some way because I'm given wavelengths but I am unsure how to use it. Can anyone help?
 
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You know the velocity of the orbit.
You know the period of the orbit.
You therefore know the radius of the oribit.
You therefore know the centripetal force, and therefore the gravitational force.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
You know the velocity of the orbit.
You know the period of the orbit.
You therefore know the radius of the oribit.
You therefore know the centripetal force, and therefore the gravitational force.

By using this formula: (change in wavelength / true wavelength) x speed of light
= ( (6.00031-5.99969) / 6) x 300000
= 31 km/s <--Is this the orbital velocity?
What other formulas are needed? M = rv2/G ?
 
burnout_128 said:
By using this formula: (change in wavelength / true wavelength) x speed of light
= ( (6.00031-5.99969) / 6) x 300000
= 31 km/s <--Is this the orbital velocity?
What other formulas are needed? M = rv2/G ?

What makes you think the true wavelength is 6m (I'm not saying you are incorrect, I'm just saying you should provide a justification for this, since it is not a given quantity.)?

And isn't the "change in wavelength" the maximum (or minimum) minus the true wavelength (not max minus min)? Remember, when the craft is moving directly towards/away from you, you expect to observe the minimum/maximum wavelength.
 

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