Mass Spectrum Analysis: Identifying Mass & Charge

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying mass and charge in mass spectrum analysis, focusing on the relationship between mass, charge, and the peaks observed in the spectrum. Participants explore the need for reference masses in calibration and the calculations involved in determining mass from spectral data.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the process of identifying mass corresponding to a peak in a mass spectrum and presents several equations that relate mass and charge.
  • Another participant requests clarification on terms and asks for a diagram of particle paths through fields, indicating a desire for more context.
  • A later reply specifies that the inquiry is related to a seminar for graduates rather than a school assignment.
  • There is a question about whether a reference mass is necessary for measuring the spectrum of a new molecule or if it can be determined solely through calculations based on the spectrum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion does not reach a consensus on the necessity of a reference mass for spectrum analysis, with differing views on whether calculations alone can suffice.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined all terms or provided diagrams, which may limit understanding. The discussion includes unresolved questions about the dependence on reference masses and the assumptions underlying the calculations presented.

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Hello everyone,

I'd like to know how to identify the charge and the mass in a mass spectrum. How do I get the mass corresponding to a peak. I know how they are related

p=\frac{m}{z}
p_1=\frac{M_r+z_1}{z_1}
p_2=\frac{M_r+(z_1-1)}{(z_1-1)}
z_1 =\frac{p_2-1}{p_2-p_1}
M_r = \frac{1}{\frac{1}{p_1-1}-\frac{1}{p_2-1}}

but do I need a reference mass for a mass-to-tof calibration or?
 
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sorry, didn't know how to use Latex here ;)
$$
p=\frac{m}{z}$$ $$
p_1=\frac{M_r+z_1}{z_1}$$ $$
p_2=\frac{M_r+(z_1-1)}{(z_1-1)} $$ $$
z_1 =\frac{p_2-1}{p_2-p_1} $$ $$
M_r = \frac{1}{\frac{1}{p_1-1}-\frac{1}{p_2-1}}$$
 
Welcome to the PF.:smile:

Could you define your terms, and give us a diagram of the path of the particles as they pass through the fields?

Also, is this for a schoolwork assignment?
 
schoolwork would be nice, seminar for graduated ;)
mass $$m$$
charge $$z$$
peak in spectrum $$p_i$$
original mass of ion $$M$$

What I essentially wanted to ask: Do you need a reference mass (e.g. a bucky ball or a carbon atom) with a known mass for measuring a spectrum of a new molecule or can you gain this information only by some calculation (as mentioned above) out of a spectrum without any reference?
 

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