Masters in Engineering: Should I Pursue an MSc in the UK?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the considerations and concerns of a participant contemplating pursuing a Master of Science in Aeronautical Engineering in the UK, following a less than stellar undergraduate academic record in Physics. The conversation explores readiness for graduate school, prior academic performance, and the intensity of the program.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their preparedness for graduate school due to a low undergraduate GPA and lack of engineering coursework, despite a strong passion for aeronautics.
  • Another participant questions the first poster's retention of knowledge from undergraduate studies, particularly in math and physics.
  • A participant currently studying mechanical engineering suggests that the material in their courses is similar to that of aerospace, indicating that a solid grasp of mathematics may be sufficient for success.
  • Concerns are raised about the workload of a one-year MSc program in the UK, with suggestions that prior knowledge of certain subjects, such as tensor algebra and partial differential equations, will be assumed.
  • One participant notes that high grades in core subjects like Fluids and Dynamics may be more indicative of potential success than overall GPA.
  • Another participant encourages the original poster to familiarize themselves with the course material ahead of time to mitigate feelings of being overwhelmed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of concern regarding the original poster's readiness for graduate school. While some suggest that prior academic performance may not be as detrimental as perceived, others emphasize the importance of foundational knowledge and preparation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the original poster's actual preparedness for the program.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about the intensity of the UK program compared to US programs, and the specific courses that will be taken are not detailed. The original poster's lack of research experience is also noted but not fully explored in terms of its impact on their application or readiness.

MyWifesABobcat
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Hey All

I need some advice

I graduated from a small liberal arts college with a BA in Physics. I dealt with quite a bit in college, and as a result (coupled with my unwillingness to study as much as I should have), I ended up with a 2.8 and pretty much no research experience.

I've applied (and been accepted) into some grad programs in Aeronautical Engineering (M.S.), which is what I had always planned on doing as a career.

However, I'm not quite sure if I'm prepared for graduate school. I'm quite a bit different now than when I was in college, and would definitely say I have a stronger work ethic and goals, but I've never taken any engineering courses besides 1 upper division fluid mechanics course.

On top of all of that, my top choice is in the United Kingdom - a 1 year MSc course (12 months). Will it simply be too much work for someone who hasn't had any experience and, quite frankly, a lousy track record of academic success?

I'd like to stress that I believe in myself, and that I will be a much better and more studious student than I was as an undergrad, but I feel like I may be in over my head here. Any advice or reality checks would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: I'd like to note that I am passionate about aeronautics and aviation, so it wasn't some arbitrary choice. This is what I have always wanted to do.
 
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MyWifesABobcat said:
I graduated from a small liberal arts college with a BA in Physics. I dealt with quite a bit in college, and as a result (coupled with my unwillingness to study as much as I should have), I ended up with a 2.8 and pretty much no research experience.
a 2.8 is pretty low. do you remember anything learned from undergrad, both concerning math and physics?

MyWifesABobcat said:
but I've never taken any engineering courses besides 1 upper division fluid mechanics course.
i'm a masters student in mechanical engineering (very similar to aerospace) studying fluids (now it's exactly like aerospace) and i can tell you there is little difference between my courses of study and fluids dealing with physics (by little difference i mean the two are identical in material).

MyWifesABobcat said:
On top of all of that, my top choice is in the United Kingdom - a 1 year MSc course (12 months). Will it simply be too much work for someone who hasn't had any experience and, quite frankly, a lousy track record of academic success?
again, how much do you remember from undergrad? terminology will still be here, and my guess is tensor algebra/calculus will manifest itself. obviously partial differential equations will appear, and perhaps some statistics too. i would be encouraged to try and gain an intimate understanding of these subjects, as your grad program will assume everyone already understands the material.

MyWifesABobcat said:
I'd like to stress that I believe in myself, and that I will be a much better and more studious student than I was as an undergrad, but I feel like I may be in over my head here. Any advice or reality checks would be greatly appreciated.

you really have no idea if you can manage the workload or not. it sounds like you've never given yourself a chance to see how you perform in the academic arena, so only you can answer this (and even then, my guess is you won't know unless you enroll).

what area of aerospace are you studying?
 
a 2.8 is pretty low. do you remember anything learned from undergrad, both concerning math and physics?

I've got a pretty solid grasp of all of the necessary mathematics. Calc I-III, Linear Algebra, Probability & Statistics, Numerical Analysis, ODEs, PDEs. My upper division math GPA was much better than my overall.

Most of my poor grades came from (oddly enough) my general courses, as well as a few poor performances in some of my more theoretical physics courses. I got very high marks in Fluids and dynamics, though, which encourages me a bit when looking at a masters in a mechanical engineering type of program.



you really have no idea if you can manage the workload or not. it sounds like you've never given yourself a chance to see how you perform in the academic arena, so only you can answer this (and even then, my guess is you won't know unless you enroll).

You are absolutely right, I really have no idea. I had pretty much no opportunity for real research (or rather, I didn't make any opportunities), so I have absolutely no experience besides my experimental research course. I've never given a scientific presentation based on my own research at all.


what area of aerospace are you studying?

http://www.gla.ac.uk/postgraduate/taught/aeronauticalengineering/ I'm planning on doing my thesis in fluid dynamics, though that could absolutely change once I get thrown into the fire. I'm mostly just concerned with the fact that I've never taken any of these courses before, and coupled with my poor performance and the fact that it seems to be a more intensive program than a US one, I may be in over my head.

I believe in myself and I have the work ethic to do it, but that's very easy for me to say while I sit on my computer at home with no commitments at the moment.

Thanks again for the reply.
 
MyWifesABobcat said:
I've got a pretty solid grasp of all of the necessary mathematics. Calc I-III, Linear Algebra, Probability & Statistics, Numerical Analysis, ODEs, PDEs. My upper division math GPA was much better than my overall.

Most of my poor grades came from (oddly enough) my general courses, as well as a few poor performances in some of my more theoretical physics courses. I got very high marks in Fluids and dynamics, though, which encourages me a bit when looking at a masters in a mechanical engineering type of program.

it sounds like you are not in a bad position. knowing the math affords you the toolkit you'll probably need to succeed in aerospace. and having high grades in your core is really all that matters (once you're in, that is). overall it sounds like you're not off as bad as your initial post made it sound.




MyWifesABobcat said:
You are absolutely right, I really have no idea. I had pretty much no opportunity for real research (or rather, I didn't make any opportunities), so I have absolutely no experience besides my experimental research course. I've never given a scientific presentation based on my own research at all.
lacking research most likely only hurts your application. once you're in, I'm sure faculty will help you start into it. i really wouldn't worry about prior research. after all, that's what graduate school is for.

MyWifesABobcat said:
I'm mostly just concerned with the fact that I've never taken any of these courses before, and coupled with my poor performance and the fact that it seems to be a more intensive program than a US one, I may be in over my head.
if you feel this way, find out what courses you'll be taking, email the professors for the books and authors, and start into the material. i always do this and i'd say it has paid off big time. even if you don't learn a ton on your own, you're not going into the term blind.

good luck!
 

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