Math Education: A Better Understanding of the "Why"

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The discussion highlights concerns about math education, particularly the lack of understanding among students and teachers regarding the "why" behind mathematical concepts. A young woman expressed frustration over memorizing theorems without comprehension, prompting a critique of teachers who may not grasp the material deeply themselves. Participants noted that while some teachers are exceptional, many lack the ability to inspire or engage students meaningfully. The conversation also touched on the broader educational system, questioning the effectiveness of teacher training and the impact of rote learning on student success. Overall, the thread emphasizes the need for a more intuitive and engaging approach to teaching math to prevent student dropout and foster a deeper understanding.
  • #61
That's an interesting scholastic background, JasonRox. My only parent to ever give me any bit of general encouragement was my mother, also. She corrected my spelling, grammar and pronunciation relentlessly. :rolleyes:
That's about it.
It's too bad I never had a tutor. To the ones who do, be grateful.
 
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  • #62
chrisdimassi said:
Finally found it http://www.doe.mass.edu/news/news.asp?id=3094"
She's an english teacher though.

Found another one from back in May (physics this time) http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/mesa/articles/0601gr-milken0531Z11.html"

That's probably close to what they make a year :frown:
It's good that someone's awarding that, though.
Oh, you mean "Milken." Oh. Well, that's different.
 
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  • #63
Interesting.

Just today, one of our Biology teachers was fuming. She had been wrist-slapped for being too hard on her students. Seems as though an "A student" who had failed all of the tests so far got a "C" for his first progress report (an unofficial grading period). The mother complained how the other biology teachers did not grade as hard as she did. She was told that she needed to lighten up.

Imagine now if you will a teacher who has to face this fact: she gave a C to a student who has failed three tests, and she must "lighten up."
 
  • #64
I told my vibrations professor the last HW was very hard (and it was) and he told me its good because we need to stop outsourcing all the jobs, we need more smart people. I told him I was sick and the homework took me twice as long, he said "sir, no excuses. You are young, you are invincible."

You guys really are not preparing your students for college or the real world.

Tell that mother to get lost.
 
  • #65
cyrusabdollahi said:
Tell that mother to get lost.
WHile I totally agree, I have to pont out...

We can't say that.
 
  • #66
how about telling her #@$%&%@#@&**&%#@ :smile:

Tell her sorry, that's the way it is. Now don't let the door hit you on the way out. You see why
I have no respect for public schools...

I think teahers should have the power to smack their students in the head for acting stupid. They do that in the rest of the world. :smile: aahhhhh, good times.
 
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  • #67
Chi Meson said:
Oh, you mean "Milken." Oh. Well, that's different.

At least they're all doing something good. Bet they're getting a tax break but what the hell, it's all good...:biggrin:
 
  • #68
Chi Meson said:
Interesting.

Just today, one of our Biology teachers was fuming. She had been wrist-slapped for being too hard on her students. Seems as though an "A student" who had failed all of the tests so far got a "C" for his first progress report (an unofficial grading period). The mother complained how the other biology teachers did not grade as hard as she did. She was told that she needed to lighten up.

Imagine now if you will a teacher who has to face this fact: she gave a C to a student who has failed three tests, and she must "lighten up."


I'm shocked that parents ever complain about how the grading is going. I thought the whole PTA thing was supposed to be getting together with the teachers to discuss the student's study habits and how to improve them, etc...?

If your school allows it, invite the mother to come audit the class. If she really cares about her kid, she should. Her workplace would certainly let her off one day for that. Then she can see for herself what the kid is doing and how the class is being taught.
There are many stories of bad teachers (as we've all seen here) but the fault being the teacher's isn't the first conclusion the parent should jump to without first investigating and participating, if possible.
 
  • #69
chrisdimassi said:
I'm shocked that parents ever complain about how the grading is going. I thought the whole PTA thing was supposed to be getting together with the teachers to discuss the student's study habits and how to improve them, etc...?

If your school allows it, invite the mother to come audit the class. If she really cares about her kid, she should. Her workplace would certainly let her off one day for that. Then she can see for herself what the kid is doing and how the class is being taught.
There are many stories of bad teachers (as we've all seen here) but the fault being the teacher's isn't the first conclusion the parent should jump to without first investigating and participating, if possible.

That's why I won't teach the high school level. I don't have the patience to work with illogical and stupid parents/people.
 

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