Math Equation - Need help symplifying

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The discussion revolves around simplifying a mathematical equation involving fractions and nested expressions. Participants seek clarification on the steps involved in the simplification process, with a focus on understanding the reasoning behind each transformation.

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  • One participant presents an equation involving a series of fractions and seeks help in simplifying it.
  • Another participant attempts to rewrite the equation in a clearer nested fraction format.
  • A different participant provides a series of transformations, detailing how to combine fractions and simplify the expression step by step.
  • Questions arise regarding the reasoning behind specific steps, particularly how certain terms are derived during the simplification process.
  • Clarifications are requested about adding fractions and finding common denominators, indicating uncertainty in these foundational concepts.
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Participants generally agree on the steps taken to simplify the equation, but there are questions and requests for clarification on specific transformations, indicating some uncertainty remains in understanding the process fully.

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Some participants express confusion about the mathematical operations involved, particularly in adding fractions and finding common denominators, which may limit their understanding of the overall simplification process.

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Students or individuals seeking assistance with simplifying complex fractions and understanding the underlying mathematical principles involved in such operations.

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Hey guys i have been attempting this problem for days. If you can help me with it and explain how to solve it, I would be extremely grateful. I wrote my answer on the right. Thanks!
 

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The image isn't loading for me - could you possibly just type the equation in or is it too complex?


Oscar
 


Ill give it a whirl.

1+1/x+1/x+1/x+1/x+1

Now, the second number in the equations is always the one being divided by x + 1.
It is not both numbers that are divided, just the second. This series goes all the way down.
 
So is it like this?

<br /> 1+\cfrac{1}{x+\cfrac{1}{x+\cfrac{1}{x+\cfrac{1}{x+1}}}}<br />
 
Start with the bottom:
x+\frac{1}{x+1}=\frac{x^{2}+x+1}{x+1}

Now, the next calculation will be:

x+\frac{x+1}{x^{2}+x+1}=\frac{x^{3}+x^{2}+2x+1}{x^{2}+x+1}

You then have:

x+\frac{x^{2}+x+1}{x^{3}+x^{2}+2x+1}=\frac{x^{4}+x^{3}+3x^{2}+2x+1}{x^{3}+x^{2}+2x+1}

Thus, we finally get:

1+\frac{x^{3}+x^{2}+2x+1}{x^{4}+x^{3}+3x^{2}+2x+1}=\frac{x^{4}+2x^{3}+4x^{2}+4x+2}{x^{4}+x^{3}+3x^{2}+2x+1}
 
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Thanks, but could you explain your reasoning for doing each step?
 
Not unless you point specifically at what you didn't understand.
 
How did you get from step 2 to step 3? Such as how did 2x come into play?
 
How do you add fractions?
 
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Krasz said:
How did you get from step 2 to step 3? Such as how did 2x come into play?

After step 1, we have the following "bottom part":
x+\frac{1}{\frac{x^{2}+x+1}{x+1}}=x+\frac{x+1}{x^{2}+x+1}

Agreed thus far?

Now, we find a common denominator to the above sum:
x+\frac{x+1}{x^{2}+x+1}=\frac{x*(x^{2}+x+1)+x+1}{x^{2}+x+1}

Calculate the numerator of this expression!
 
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arildno said:
After step 1, we have the following "bottom part":
x+\frac{1}{\frac{x^{2}+x+1}{x+1}}=x+\frac{x+1}{x^{2}+x+1}

Agreed thus far?

Now, we find a common denominator to the above sum:
x+\frac{x+1}{x^{2}+x+1}=\frac{x*(x^{2}+x+1)+x+1}{x^{2}+x+1}

Calculate the numerator of this expression!

Thank you so much I see it now! You were a great help!
 
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Even though they have not been assigned as exercises, I am sure your textbook contains a few more problems of the same type.

Do some of them to make sure you master the technique on your own!

Good luck! :smile:
 

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