Math Major Struggles With Apostol's Calculus

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The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by a math major in tackling the exercises presented in Apostol's Single Variable Calculus. Participants explore the difficulty of the problems, the necessity of proof techniques, and alternative approaches to learning calculus and proofs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration at being unable to solve a significant portion of Apostol's exercises despite having completed calculus courses and differential equations.
  • Another participant suggests that not being able to solve all exercises is not a barrier to taking real analysis.
  • A participant requests clarification on the specific difficulties encountered, asking for examples of problems that are challenging.
  • One participant recommends skipping certain sections of Apostol's book and starting with set theory to build foundational knowledge before returning to more complex topics.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of learning proof by induction, suggesting it is fundamental for success in higher mathematics.
  • A participant mentions a lack of recent exposure to proofs, indicating that their last experience was in geometry, which has led to forgetfulness regarding proof techniques.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the necessity of mastering all exercises in Apostol's book before progressing to real analysis. There is no consensus on the best approach to overcoming the difficulties presented by the text, with some advocating for foundational learning while others stress the importance of specific proof techniques.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the potential gaps in the original poster's exposure to proof techniques, particularly proof by induction, which may affect their ability to engage with Apostol's material effectively.

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Ive taken calculus 1-3 and differential equations and didnt think they were hard at all. I like math quite a bit so I decided to open Apostol's Single Variable Calculus Book and decided to attempt the problems. I was only able to do 30% of them and figured that Apostol's calculus is way too hard for me. I'm a math major and I know that I'll need to have done Apostols or spviak's books on Calculus for real analysis, but not being able to do Apostol's calculus is really frustrating me. Is there another way I can go? like maybe read an intro to proofs book and afterwards try doing apostols?
 
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The exercises in Apostol can be quite tricky and difficult. You certainly don't need to be able to solve all of them before taking real analysis.

Can you give us a reason why you can't solve those exercises?? Can you give us an example??
 
here is an example of a problem in the very first section. I've hardly encountered a proof by induction
 

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bonfire09 said:
here is an example of a problem in the very first section. I've hardly encountered a proof by induction

I recommend skipping that section and starting from I 2.1 (Introduction to set theory). You can return to it after you finish the sections on induction (I 4.1 - I 4.10) or skip it entirely.
 
go right now and learn proofs by induction. do not pass go until you do, indeed you will not be able to pass go until you do. this is absolutely fundamental. i thought this was still taught in high school. here is a free set of notes on the topic.
 

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i haven't had much exposure on proofs in a long time. Last time I had to do proofs were in geometry. I became good at it but after a while I forget about it.
 

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