Math Myth: A prime is only divisible by 1 and itself

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The discussion revolves around the definition of prime numbers and the common misconceptions associated with it. Participants explore the nuances of primality versus irreducibility, particularly in different mathematical domains.

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  • Some participants argue that the traditional definition of a prime number as being only divisible by 1 and itself is misleading, as it conflates primality with irreducibility.
  • One participant presents a more nuanced definition of a prime number, stating that a prime divides a product if and only if it divides at least one of the factors.
  • There is mention of specific examples, such as the integers in the domain ##\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{-5}##, where certain irreducible factors do not qualify as prime, highlighting the complexity of the concept.
  • Another participant expresses relief that their grade school education did not include these misconceptions, suggesting a preference for simpler definitions in early learning.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the definition of prime numbers, with multiple competing views and interpretations presented throughout the discussion.

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The discussion highlights limitations in the traditional definition of prime numbers and the potential for confusion when considering different mathematical contexts, such as irreducibility in various domains.

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From @fresh_42's Insight
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This is wrong. Well, yes and no. Strictly speaking, this definition describes irreducibility. And irreducibility is different from primality. A prime number is actually a number, that if it divides a product, then it has to divide one of the factors. $$7\,|\,28=2\cdot 14 \;\Longrightarrow \;7\,|\,2\text{ or }7\,|\,14$$ $$4\,|\,12=2\cdot 6\text{ but }4\,\nmid \,2 \text{ and } 4\,\nmid \,6$$ It is a bit more complicated, but it is the correct definition. However, irreducible integers are prime integers and vice versa which is why the correct definition is replaced at school by the more handy one. However, there are domains in which this is not the case. The standard example is ##\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{-5}]## where $$6=2\cdot 3=(1+\sqrt{-5})\cdot (1-\sqrt{-5})$$ is a decomposition into irreducible factors that are not prime.
 
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