Math Myth: Reducing an equation

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical principle of reducing equations, specifically the implications of dividing by zero and the assumptions underlying multiplication and division. Participants explore the standard procedure of cancelling terms in equations and the potential pitfalls associated with it, emphasizing the importance of careful mathematical reasoning.

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  • Some participants argue that the standard procedure of cancelling terms in equations, such as $$ab=ac \;\Longrightarrow \;b=c$$, can be misleading and potentially incorrect if not handled carefully, particularly when division by zero is involved.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of avoiding division unless it is certain that the denominator is not zero, drawing from experiences in programming.
  • Another participant raises a question about the nature of zero in multiplication and division, suggesting that the discussion may involve circular reasoning regarding the role of zero in these operations.
  • There is a suggestion that division requires a group structure, while multiplication only requires a ring, indicating a deeper mathematical framework that may not be explicitly stated in the original argument.
  • A later reply points out that the assumption of being in a ring rather than a group is problematic, as it affects the validity of the implications drawn from the equation.
  • One participant proposes that the concept of multiplication by zero could be illustrated to younger students through diagrams to clarify why it cannot be "undone," as it maps multiple elements to zero.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of dividing by zero and the foundational structures of multiplication and division. There is no consensus on the validity of the assumptions made regarding rings and groups, and the discussion remains unresolved.

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The discussion highlights limitations in the assumptions made about mathematical structures and the implications of division by zero. The varying interpretations of zero's role in multiplication and division are also noted.

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From @fresh_42's Insight
https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/10-math-things-we-all-learnt-wrong-at-school/

Please discuss!

This time I'm hopefully in accordance with teachers. The standard procedure is

$$ab=ac \;\Longrightarrow \;b=c$$

It is not only sloppy, it is even wrong sometimes, and belongs to the standard mistakes in class. If we all would take the time and write it down more carefully, this could really avoid the mistake: \begin{align*}ab=ac \;\Longrightarrow \;ab-ac=0\;\Longrightarrow \;a\cdot (b-c)=0\;\Longrightarrow \;a=0\quad\text{ or }\quad b=c\end{align*}

The second possibility is all of a sudden evident. The advice behind it is simple: avoid divisions as long as you can. And if, make sure you are allowed to.
 
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The "avoid division" advice is one I began following very early in my programming career. Unless the denominator is known to be well clear of zero (for example, the constant pi), it needs to be checked. And if the check fails, you need to figure out what the computer should do next.
 
It seems to be some circular argumentation with your other point:
https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/10-math-things-we-all-learnt-wrong-at-school/ said:
#3. You cannot divide by ##0##.

[...] ##0## hasn't the least to do with multiplication and even less with division. The question to divide by ##0## doesn't even arise! The neutral element for multiplication is ##1,## not ##0##. That belongs to addition. [...]
So, do we consider ##0## as part of multiplication or not?
 
jack action said:
It seems to be some circular argumentation with your other point:

So, do we consider ##0## as part of multiplication or not?
Division needs a group, multiplication only a ring.
 
The implication here of ##ab = ac \implies ab-ac =0## seems to assume we are in a ring not a (semi?)group but never states anything about groups vs rings, so I found this a touch problematic.

In both cases the underlying idea is to consider whether the mapping given by left multiplication with ##a## is injective.

I think the core of this can be conveyed to early school kids with a diagram-- in particular why you can't "undo" multiplication by zero because it maps multiple elements (presumably in ##\mathbb Q## or some other ring that isn't the zero ring) to zero. In particular multiplication by 0 maps 0 to 0 and 1 to 0.
 

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